[pymvpa] hyperalignment inquiry

David Soto d.soto.b at gmail.com
Tue Aug 2 13:30:35 UTC 2016


Hi Swaroop, thanks for looking into it...

There does not seem be a clear documentation on how to get the query
engines ..from what I have seen this is what I did:

d=[]
qe=[]
num=-1
for subj in range(1,5):
    num=num+1
    print(subj)
    datapath='/Users/dsoto/Dropbox/4hyperal/subj%d' %(int(subj))
    d.append(fmri_dataset(samples=os.path.join(datapath,
 'reg4mm.nii.gz'),
                      targets=attr.targets, chunks=attr.chunks,
                      mask=os.path.join(path0, 'mni4mm.nii.gz')))

    d[num]=remove_invariant_features(d[num])

    voxel_indices=d[num].fa.voxel_indices

    testqe=IndexQueryEngine(voxel_indices=Sphere(3))

    qe.append(testqe.query_byid)

qe_merged = [qe[0],qe[1],qe[2],qe[3]]

ds_merged = [d[0],d[1],d[2],d[3]]

which I then was hoping to pass later onto
    slhyper = SearchlightHyperalignment(queryengine=qe_merged)

however there does not appear to be an output for each of the 'qe' above,
even though I can see the voxel_ids...

any tips would be very useful!

thanks!


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On 1 August 2016 at 19:02, Swaroop Guntupalli <swaroopgj at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Thanks for the data. The issue is that when using searchlight
> hyperalignment without supplying queryengines but providing radius (as in
> your case), we compute a single spherical volume queryengine on the
> reference subject, which means all the datasets need to be aligned and have
> exact same number of features. The issue in your script is that you remove
> invariance features separately for each subject, which results in different
>  numbers of features for each subject.
>
> There are two ways to resolve it:
> 1) after removing invariant features, supply list of spherical volume
> queryengines corresponding to subjects, or
> 2) find the union of invariant features in all subjects, and then remove
> the same set of features from all subjects, and proceed with hyperalignment
> as you have currently.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Best,
> Swaroop
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:30 AM, David Soto <d.soto.b at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Swaroop, I have run the analyses using the individual copes that were
>> co-registered in FSL to the individual T1 (using BBR) and then to MNI2mm
>> template using a 12 DOF.  The problem persists even after doing
>> remove_invariant_features().
>> I get a similar  'Indexerror: index 226822 is out of bounds for axis 1
>> with size 198603'
>>
>> I have uploaded all the datafiles which you can find in the link below,
>> just in case you could have a look. If you open the zip then you will find
>> all the relevant files, including the pymvpa script that I use to run the
>> analyses ('hyperalscript.py'), the individual data within a folder and also
>> the attributes file and the MNI brain mask
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7-qbWx3g9KfUU1jOFVpQ05oRWM
>>
>> any help would be much appreciated...
>>
>> thanks!
>> david
>>
>> On 29 July 2016 at 18:28, Swaroop Guntupalli <swaroopgj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That is correct. But the searchlight centers across subjects are assumed
>>> to be aligned.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 8:24 AM, David Soto <d.soto.b at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ​Hi, thanks I will try that,  I understand therefore that the number of
>>>> features per subject need not be equal across subjects for searchlight
>>>> hyperalignment - but please correct me if am wrong.
>>>> best
>>>> david
>>>>
>>>> On 29 July 2016 at 16:17, Swaroop Guntupalli <swaroopgj at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are using searchlight hyperalignment, it is advisable to align
>>>>> the data across subjects using anatomy first. Simplest would be to be align
>>>>> them to an MNI template and then run the searchlight hyperalignment.
>>>>> Our tutorial dataset is affine aligned to MNI template.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Swaroop
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 10:51 AM, David Soto <d.soto.b at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Swaroop, I managed to get the dataset in the right format as
>>>>>> per the hyperaligmentsearchlight tutorial
>>>>>> however when I run the hyperaligment I get the following error (IndexError:
>>>>>> index 46268 is out of bounds for axis 1 with size 43506, see further
>>>>>> below)...to recap the dataset is a concatenation of each subject data, each
>>>>>> in individual native space, so number of features are different across
>>>>>> subjects...
>>>>>> The code I use is the same as in the tutorial, namely, any feedback
>>>>>> would be great, thanks, david
>>>>>> cv = CrossValidation(clf, NFoldPartitioner(attr='subject'),
>>>>>>                      errorfx=mean_match_accuracy)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for test_run in range(nruns):
>>>>>>     ds_train = [sd[sd.sa.chunks != test_run, :] for sd in ds_all]
>>>>>>     ds_test = [sd[sd.sa.chunks == test_run, :] for sd in ds_all]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     slhyper = SearchlightHyperalignment(radius=3, featsel=0.4,
>>>>>> sparse_radius=3)
>>>>>>     slhypmaps = slhyper(ds_train)
>>>>>>     ds_hyper = [h.forward(sd) for h, sd in zip(slhypmaps, ds_test)]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     ds_hyper = vstack(ds_hyper)
>>>>>>     zscore(ds_hyper, chunks_attr='subject')
>>>>>>     res_cv = cv(ds_hyper)
>>>>>>     bsc_slhyper_results.append(res_cv)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OUTPUT MESSAGE.........
>>>>>> Performing classification analyses...
>>>>>>   between-subject (searchlight hyperaligned)...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>> IndexError                                Traceback (most recent call
>>>>>> last)
>>>>>> <ipython-input-191-85bdb873d4f1> in <module>()
>>>>>>      24     # Searchlight Hyperalignment returns a list of mappers
>>>>>> corresponding to
>>>>>>      25     # subjects in the same order as the list of datasets we
>>>>>> passed in.
>>>>>> ---> 26     slhypmaps = slhyper(ds_train)
>>>>>>      27
>>>>>>      28     # Applying hyperalignment parameters is similar to
>>>>>> applying any mapper in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mvpa2/algorithms/searchlight_hyperalignment.pyc
>>>>>> in __call__(self, datasets)
>>>>>>     626             node_blocks = np.array_split(roi_ids,
>>>>>> params.nblocks)
>>>>>>     627             p_results = [self._proc_block(block, datasets,
>>>>>> hmeasure, queryengines)
>>>>>> --> 628                          for block in node_blocks]
>>>>>>     629         results_ds = self.__handle_all_results(p_results)
>>>>>>     630         # Dummy iterator for, you know, iteration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mvpa2/algorithms/searchlight_hyperalignment.pyc
>>>>>> in _proc_block(self, block, datasets, featselhyper, queryengines, seed,
>>>>>> iblock)
>>>>>>     387                 continue
>>>>>>     388             # selecting neighborhood for all subject for
>>>>>> hyperalignment
>>>>>> --> 389             ds_temp = [sd[:, ids] for sd, ids in
>>>>>> zip(datasets, roi_feature_ids_all)]
>>>>>>     390             if self.force_roi_seed:
>>>>>>     391                 roi_seed = np.array(roi_feature_ids_all[self.params.ref_ds])
>>>>>> == node_id
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mvpa2/datasets/base.pyc in
>>>>>> __getitem__(self, args)
>>>>>>     139
>>>>>>     140         # let the base do the work
>>>>>> --> 141         ds = super(Dataset, self).__getitem__(args)
>>>>>>     142
>>>>>>     143         # and adjusting the mapper (if any)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mvpa2/base/dataset.pyc in
>>>>>> __getitem__(self, args)
>>>>>>     445         if isinstance(self.samples, np.ndarray):
>>>>>>     446             if np.any([isinstance(a, slice) for a in args]):
>>>>>> --> 447                 samples = self.samples[args[0], args[1]]
>>>>>>     448             else:
>>>>>>     449                 # works even with bool masks (although without
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IndexError: index 46268 is out of bounds for axis 1 with size 43506
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 July 2016 at 00:25, Swaroop Guntupalli <swaroopgj at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you have limited data, you can use a part of it (however you
>>>>>>> split the data for training and testing)
>>>>>>> to train hyperalignment, and also use the same part to train the
>>>>>>> classifier and then apply hyperalignment and test classifier on the
>>>>>>> left-out part. Yes, you can artificially create 2 chunks (or more if you
>>>>>>> prefer).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 3:17 PM, David Soto <d.soto.b at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> sounds great thanks, a further thing is that I have seen that in
>>>>>>>> order to preclude  circularity issues, hyperalinment is implemented on a
>>>>>>>> subset of training chunks and then the transformation is applied to the
>>>>>>>> full datasets prior to classification analyses.  Given that I have no
>>>>>>>> proper chunks/runs here, but only 56 betas across trials, would it be okay
>>>>>>>> to train hyperaligment just on half of the 56 betas, eg artificially split
>>>>>>>> the data set in 2 chunks  each containing 14 betas of class A and 14 of
>>>>>>>> class B? Or would it be just OK to train hyperaligment on the 56 betas in
>>>>>>>> the first instance?
>>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>>> david
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 28 July 2016 at 00:00, Swaroop Guntupalli <swaroopgj at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The hyperalignment example on PyMVPA uses one beta map for each
>>>>>>>>> category per run.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Swaroop Guntupalli <
>>>>>>>>> swaroopgj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Beta maps should work fine for hyperalignment. The more maps (or
>>>>>>>>>> TRs) there are, better the estimate.
>>>>>>>>>> We used within-subject hyperalignment in Haxby et al. 2011, which
>>>>>>>>>> uses maps from 6 categories (we used 3 successive betas per condition I
>>>>>>>>>> think).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> vstack() merges multiple datasets into a single dataset, and if
>>>>>>>>>> there is any voxel count (nfeatures) mismatch across subjects, it won't
>>>>>>>>>> work (as evidenced by the error).
>>>>>>>>>> Hyperalignment takes in a list of datasets, one per each subject.
>>>>>>>>>> So, you can make that a list as
>>>>>>>>>> ds_all =[ds1, ds2, ...., ds16]
>>>>>>>>>> and use for Hyperalignment()
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Swaroop
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 2:28 PM, David Soto <d.soto.b at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> in my experiment I have 28 betas in condition A and 28 parameter
>>>>>>>>>>> estimate images and 28  in condition B for each subject (N=16 in total).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i have performed across-subjects SVM-based searchlight
>>>>>>>>>>> classification using MNI-registered individual beta images and I would like
>>>>>>>>>>> to repeat and confirm my results using searchlight based on hyperaligned
>>>>>>>>>>> data.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i am not aware of any paper using hyperaligment on  beta images
>>>>>>>>>>> but I think this should be possible, any advise please would be nice
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i've created individual datasets concatenating the 28 betas in
>>>>>>>>>>> condition A and the 28 in condition (in the actual experiment condition A
>>>>>>>>>>> and B can appear randomly on each trial). I have 16 nifti datasets, one per
>>>>>>>>>>> subject, with each in individual native anatomical space. In trying to get
>>>>>>>>>>> a dataset in the same format as in the hyperlignment tutorial I use
>>>>>>>>>>> fmri_dataset on each individual wholebrain 48 betas  and then try to merged
>>>>>>>>>>> then all i.e. ds_merged = vstack((d1, d2, d3, d4, d5, d6, d7,
>>>>>>>>>>> d8, d9, d10, d11, d12, d13, d14, d15,d16)) but this gives the following
>>>>>>>>>>> error pasted at the end,
>>>>>>>>>>> which I think it is becos the number of voxels is different
>>>>>>>>>>> across subjects. This is one issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Another is that the function vstack does appear to produce the
>>>>>>>>>>> list of individual datasets that is in the hyperligment tutorial dataset,
>>>>>>>>>>> but a list of individual betas, I would be grateful to receive some tips.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>> david
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ValueError                                Traceback (most recent
>>>>>>>>>>> call last)
>>>>>>>>>>> <ipython-input-64-2fef46542bfc> in <module>()
>>>>>>>>>>>      19 h5save('/home/dsoto/dsoto/fmri/wmlearning/h5.hdf5',
>>>>>>>>>>> [d1,d2])
>>>>>>>>>>>      20 #ds_merged = vstack((d1, d2, d3, d4, d5, d6, d7,d8,d9,
>>>>>>>>>>> d10, d11, d12, d13, d14, d15, d16))
>>>>>>>>>>> ---> 21 ds_merged = vstack((d1, d2))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/mvpa2/base/dataset.pyc
>>>>>>>>>>> in vstack(datasets, a)
>>>>>>>>>>>     687                              "datasets have varying
>>>>>>>>>>> attributes.")
>>>>>>>>>>>     688     # will puke if not equal number of features
>>>>>>>>>>> --> 689     stacked_samp = np.concatenate([ds.samples for ds in
>>>>>>>>>>> datasets], axis=0)
>>>>>>>>>>>     690
>>>>>>>>>>>     691     stacked_sa = {}
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ValueError: all the input array dimensions except for the
>>>>>>>>>>> concatenation axis must match exactly
>>>>>>>>>>>
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