[Pkg-fonts-devel] RFC: new fonts-libertine package available

Rogério Brito rbrito at ime.usp.br
Thu Oct 13 07:27:54 UTC 2011

Hi, Paul.

I'm including Philipp here also. If anybody else from the font project
is likely to be included, just include them.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 14:49, Paul Sladen <paul at sladen.org> wrote:
> Gillian,
> Out of interest, are you happy with this renaming of the relevant
> Debian packages from 'ttf-linux-libertine' to just 'fonts-libertine'?

Just to give the upstream developers some ground. We have been having
a renaming overhaul of the names of the *packages* here in Debian, to
get a more unified approach on the maintainance, among other things.
So far, so good. Not touching anything upstream-specific.

But when it came to Linux Libertine, we had:


I am strongly opposed to some changes, and I asked about
clarifications regarding to what extent those changes would be taken:


to which I received Christian's reply saying:


which proposes one change that would cause breakage:

    > > * We can alias the family "Linux Biolinum" to "Linux Biolinum
O", as we are
    > >   now shipping OpenType fonts.
    > We could even alias it to "Biolinum". Similarly, it could be installed
    > in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/biolinum (not sure about
    > /usr/share/fonts/opentype...that might be another transition we need).

To that, I responded:


I the last e-mail, I wrote:

    > Anyway #2, if it is just the package name being changed, then it
won't harm
    > much (except cause confusion). OTOH, changing the font naming (either via
    > changing the fonts *or* creating fontconfig aliases) is a big no no.

Also, in that e-mail, I said that I lacked to courage to ask upstream
to change their product name for a frivolous reason of not fitting our
distribution and got responses that I should have mailed you, despite
my lack of courage. There was one person (Khaled Hosny) that responded
saying that he also saw the change as an "unreasonable request" to


As an aside, it's not too much of a surprise that I agree with Khaled
in many points, as I know where he comes from, especially from an
artistic point of view.

Continuing with the thread, Christian then replied with a totally
peaceful (this is one of the things that I like about Christian and
Bdale Garbee, BTW) proposal of keeping the package name as

I had not seen that reply and prepared a package with the name
fonts-libertine, which contained the following commit expressing that
I was acting against my will.


This was the commit that Christian told that he didn't like and I
didn't like to have to write it also.

The way that I see things, there will not be many other progresses in
the Debian Fonts team regarding Linux Libertine, as we are waiting for
your (upstream) view on this discussion.


P.S.: I almost wrote "<censored> Libertine" above, putting a remark
that that was a joke with all this much-ado-about-nothing, but moved
it here, for fear that humor-impaired people would not get the fun...

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