[Pkg-fonts-devel] [debian-devel:18177] Re: MBF: fonts-*-gothic: fonts-japanese-* is not registered as virtual package

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

(Since this include topics on TexLive, I cced them)

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 02:00:48AM +0900, Youhei SASAKI wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> At Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:02:19 +0900,
> Osamu Aoki <osamu at debian.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 04:10:22AM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote:
> > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 20:55:27 +0900
> > > Osamu Aoki <osamu at debian.org> wrote:
> > > > I am wondering the value of having ttf-japanese-* these days since we
> > > > are moving toward fontconfig.
> > >
> > >  fontconfig doesn't help to handle with fonts in TeX or so.
> > >  Then, I provide this fonts-japanese-*, it doesn't relate to defoma.
> >
> > Which tex?  TTF using tex is XeTeX.  XeTeX uses fontconfig as I
> > understood. DDP documents use XeTeX now.
> >
> > pTeX (ptex-jtex etc.) may be different.  But then maybe provide specific
> > help to ones requiring .. probably like  dvi2ps-fontdata-ja ...
> 
> TeXLive (>= 2011) already uses "updmap-sys" for Japanese font
> configuration. Thus fonts-japanese-* will be not needed if TeXLive
> packages are updated.

Good and bad.  We still have texlive from 2009 in Debian.  Not even
2010.  As I see BTS, it looks like this is very difficult time.

 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=643023
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655379

This task seems to much for Norbert Preining <preining at logic.at> and
Frank Küster <frank at debian.org>.  Can we expect TeXLive 2011 for wheezy?

> AFAIK, fonts-japanese-* is currently needed about ghostscript[1]. The
> ghostscript's fontconfig support is very limited. So the
> "gs-cjk-resource" package provides templates about Fontmap/cidfmap and
> update script.
> 
> [1] http://wiki.debian.org/gs-undefoma
> 
> How to handle Fontmap/cidfmap, especially aliases?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> In Japanese:
> TeXLive(>= 2011) が入れば, updmap-sys でフォント実ファイルを指定して切り替え
> るようになるので, fonts-japanese-* は不要でしょう.
> 
> Squeeze 以降で用いられている Ghostscript のフォント指定はどうしましょうね.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> ---
> Youhei SASAKI <uwabami at gfd-dennou.org>
>               <uwabami at debian.or.jp>
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