[Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#1116004: Bug#1116004: Im very suprised for this RC bug

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Manuel Guerra (2026-04-30 02:27:21)
> Wow, Jonas, applying a RC bug? That's pretty aggressive!

>From my point of view, you appear out of the blue and make a radical
change to a gigantic package with zero coordination ahead of that
change.

> Could you support your "opinion" with something more technical, like the
> Debian Policy, for example? I mean, what technical flaw does fonts-noto-web
> have?

RC bugs are for more that Policy violations. I already stated my reason
for raising severity.

> And regarding the consensus, the MR was there to discuss it for several
> days. A responsible maintainer would have given their opinion directly in
> the MR, stating that they disagreed with the update.

Interesting that I am to blame here for lack of collaboration. This is
clearly not working: I do not use MRs. I don't know who enabled MRs for
this package, but you should expect MR-style collaboration from those
who did, and not assume that everyone in Debian nor everyone in the
fonts team use that communication style. The fonts team has a
mailinglist that you can expect all team members to follow, if you want
to ensure that all have been heard and all are fine with you doing a
major change.

Oh, and "several days" is in my opinion not an acceptably sized window
for major packaging changes.

> In any case, if you
> need a consensus, we still have time to try to achieve it (or not) instead
> of completely blocking the package...

We have time until next freeze, indeed.

> Regarding the fonts-noto update, I imagine you also prefer to keep the
> vendorized CDBS options as well...

Do you also assume that I am racist and white and male? Or where did
that accusation spring from, and what on Earth does that have to do
with my putting a pause on an uncoordinated major packaging change?

> This only leads me to think that you don't allow anyone to touch your
> packages.

Please elaborate. I would genuinely want to understand how you reach
that position. Is it my choice of using CDBS or my use of the BTS or
something else that you find a clear indication of me being antisocial?

> I'd like to know Detiste's opinion on this. If the consensus is to roll
> back fonts-noto, then that's fine by me.

Why Detiste? Because he has intimate knowledge on the Noto font
packaging, or...?

> Sorry if I sound rude.

I think you do, yes. Apology not accepted: Be less rude instead!

 - Jonas

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