RFS: SDLJump

[Eddy Petrişor]

On 2/17/06, Ben Armstrong <synrg at sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 15:36 +0200, Eddy Petrişor wrote:
> > The sledgehammer is debtags itself, not the actual tag; no user will
> > need without D-I an udeb (at least not one thatknows what he's doing
> > ;-), only the installer will use udebs
>
> I have come around to seeing that.  So the rest of my musing has to do
> with the inconsistency of having multiple classification systems, not
> the particular constraints that appear to be inherent in D-I and udebs.
>
> > the binary udeb package can have different tags than the binary deb,
> > with no problems; please document yourself about the purpose of udebs,
> > you will understand better.
>
> I did warn you that my question was naive. :)  But yes, I have a general
> idea what udebs are for.
>
> > So having an X- header in the udeb will
> > not prevent the deb to have an associated debtags tag.
>
> I'm aware that they can differ.  Was my suggestion that such X- headers
> be defined in terms of debtags too subtle?  Couldn't the classification
> quite easily reside in debtags, and the X- headers be set based on the
> debtags tags?
>
> > > I'm assuming a user
> > > might care about locating the subset of packages flagged as D-I game
> > > material outside of the context of doing an actual install.
> >
> > I simply can't imagine that scenario. What would be the purpose?
>
> One springs to mind: communication between users and developers about
> the classification.

There is no need of such a complicated clasifcation like debtags withing D-I

> If the X- header in the udeb is the *sole* place
> where this classification is stored, the classification is a bit
> obscure.  Only the D-I team itself, plus a handful of people here are
> likely to know about it.

Because no one else would need that info.

> On the other hand, if there is a tag, and the X-header in the udeb is
> set based on the tag,

Usually package mainatinance is done by hand, so a developer could

> it is clearer to all people examining Debian's
> packages which games are in D-I.

If you find an udeb in the package database, then it most surely is in D-I

> This facilitates decision-making and
> teamwork.

The only decision one would make is wheter he would play a game or the
other during install. Playing the game after the installation is
totally another issue.

The only thing you would need in D-I is to see _during_ the
installation _through_ the D-I interface that you can choose one out
of (e.g.) 3 games to play right then, until the system installs.

D-I is the only one who needs to discriminate between a game udeb and
another type of udeb. But all of this is still vaporware, currently.

--
Regards,
EddyP
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