Bug#586291: wesnoth-1.8: Please rename to wesnoth and remove older versions

[Andreas Tille]

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:19:19AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>  I'm lacking the information that you are part of either team or are
> needed to specifically be made aware of the communication with those
> teams.

I can give you precise information about this: I'm not a part of either
team - I just was trying to apply common sense and was deducing from
former similar cases (for instance Zope, where RC team was fighting hard
about reducing the number of versions inside Debian).
 
>  Let me cite again from the blog entry, maybe you missed that paragraph:
> 
> "People asked for a way to be able to install different branches
> side-by-side so that they can keep the old stable branch around for
> finishing started campaigns there while still being able to play with
> their friends multiplayer games using the new stable branch. Also people
> using the development version wanted to not having to get rid of the
> stable version just to use the development branch."

I can confirm that I have read this.  Do you want me to quote numerous
requests of scientists who need some specific versions of certain
programs?  IMHO Debian will fail in consistently support all those
requests and I fail to see why Wesnoth (BTW, I like it as well) should
make here an exception.
 
> > IMHO this is unneeded work and over-engineering.
> 
>  IMNSHO you are not the package maintainer and neither involved in the
> upstream development or the bug management of the package, might it be
> in the wesnoth forums, the Debian BTS or Ubuntu lanuchpad. Also you
> aren't the one doing the work so I'm not sure what makes you competent
> to judge the benefits in respect to the needed work for it.

I reported a bug as a user of Debian and specifically wesnoth and the
problem I detected was that I was failing in realising that Debian has
packages for never versions but no smooth upgrade path.  This
information belongs to the BTS and the fact that you have a promise for
your solution does not solve this bug report.

Up to now I was not aware of the fact that a user needs to have some
specific features as you are requesting above to be able to report a
problem.

I have drawn the line further by proposing a solution for the problem -
I did not called it patch and considering your answer this would not
have been accepted.  BTW, I see no need to question the qualification
for certain opinions of fellow DDs.
 
> > Having a metapackage which picks the recent stable upstream version
> > might be OK.  I do not think that we should actually release two
> > different versions in stable Debian.
> 
>  I do not think that I anywhere mentioned that it is actually planed to
> release two different versions in stable Debian. We didn't and we don't
> plan to.

So why are you making so much fuzz about my bug report instead of
just answering this way?

Kind regards

        Andreas.

PS: For me the issue is OK and needs no further discussion and so I
    will probably stay silent about this.

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