Bug#628686: openarena-081-players-mature: Please be more specific what "mature" player graphics means

Simon McVittie smcv at debian.org
Tue May 31 11:34:03 UTC 2011


On Tue, 31 May 2011 at 21:26:50 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
> And if this is problematic for some people (some threads that I have found show
> it actually is), maybe the openarena-data package should merely recommend this
> specific package to make it installed by default but easy to remove if
> inappropriate.

The "players-mature" naming is from upstream: this package corresponds to
pak2-players-mature.pk3. Historically, it was in openarena-data, but I've
split the packages up recently so that they'll fit in CD releases more easily.

I had hoped that I could limit -players-mature to a Recommends, but it isn't
really practical to do so.

In the 0.8.1 era, deleting pak2-players-mature.pk3 was apparently vaguely
supported, although it would break multiplayer compatibility - if you remove
this package then join a server that has it (and basically all of them do),
either you'll be unable to join that server, or you'll auto-download the
equivalent file from the server (slowly, wasting its bandwidth, and unmanaged
by dpkg). Not really ideal, but acceptable.

In 0.8.5 it gets worse, because there are some updated textures for Angelyss in
the 0.8.5 patch (pak6-patch085.pk3, openarena-085-data). If you delete
pak2-players-mature.pk3 but still have pak6-patch085.pk3, the menu still
offers Angelyss as a possible character to use, but if you select her,
the missing model makes you invisible!

The way network compatibility works in the OpenArena engine puts some rather
strict constraints on what we can do about this, assuming we don't want
Debian's OpenArena to be incompatible with everyone else's (which we don't).

(For the record: pak2-players-mature.pk3 contains models and textures for
Angelyss, Arachna, Ayumi and Sorceress, and pak6-patch085.pk3 contains
updated textures for Angelyss. I'm not sure why Ayumi is in players-mature:
perhaps there used to be more controversial textures, but they were removed?)

    S





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