Bug#950926: ember: Using packages to install "snap" packages is not a correct use of the packaging system

[Olek Wojnar]

Control: tag -1 = confirmed

Thanks for reminding me about this bug, tobi! I guess a lot has been
happening since February of 2020....


On 8/27/22 08:11, Tobias Frost wrote:
> User: tobi-rm-proposals at d.o
> Usertags: rm-proposal
> 
> (FTR, I also don't think that snap/flatpak/appimage should be pulled by an Debian package)

So I did think about what Manuel said although life and world events
distracted me from replying. I am now of the opinion that although I had
the best of intentions and (at the time) logical reasons for doing so,
packaging a Snap is an inherently bad and problematic concept. So, I
agree with you. :)

> I agree with Olek, Ember (and friends) were always hard to keep floating in Debian, so I can
> understand Oleks' sentiment about maybe using snap… However this can be done by the
> users themselves, there is no need to have a debian package doing so.

Yes... But I got SOOOO much great packaging experience from that! ;) In
all seriousness: yes, I agree, a user can install a Snap and it's a
waste of time for package maintainers to do so.

> So, maybe, it is time to let ember go and remove it from Debian?

I'd really hate to see that happen but if the code isn't in a stable
state soon then I'm not sure there will be much of a choice. I've
reached out to upstream to inquire about the timeline. Depending on that
response, I'll decide how to move forward. The Ember client hasn't seen
a release since November 2019 and the Cyphesis server hasn't been
released since October 2013. A lot has changed since then and neither of
those releases is maintainable at this point.

Either way, I've marked this bug confirmed because I now fundamentally
agree with the issue.

> It has no reverse dependencies, so it is save to do so.
> 
> I'll reassign this bug to ftp.debian.org in 3 months, if there is no veto
> in this bug.

Let's try to figure this out sooner. :)

-Olek
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