Bug#263483: marked as done (for Sarge+1, rewrite bug-buddy as a
GUI reporter for BTS)
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Package: bug-buddy
Version: 2.6.1-3
Severity: wishlist
In its current incarnation, bug-buddy is barely usable, because the "list of top Gnome bugs" makes no sense when you
already know which package you're about to file a bug against and because the bug report is sent to a different place
than the rest of the Debian system (upstream to the Gnome Foundation's bugzilla, instead of Debian's BTS).
The idea, for the release following Sarge, would be to rewrite bug-buddy into something well-integrated with this
vendor's distribution, namely to submit bugs to the vendor's own bug reporting system, the BTS.
The overall concept would be to keep the current 'strace' catching abilities and overall GUI design of bug-buddy, but
to hard-code the submiting address to submit@bugs.debian.org and add classification of the report following the BTS'
severity levels and optional tags, so that bug-buddy actually shows real usefulness within the context of Debian.
However, in order to ensure that the system remains usefull to Gnome's upstream developers, the BTS will have to be
improved so that an optional BTS tag exists to automatically trigger a forward of the BTS entry to upstream Gnome.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (101, 'testing'), (99, 'unstable')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7-imac
Locale: LANG=fi_FI@euro, LC_CTYPE=fi_FI@euro
Versions of packages bug-buddy depends on:
ii gdb 6.1-3 The GNU Debugger
ii libart-2.0-2 2.3.16-5 Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii libatk1.0-0 1.6.1-2 The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii libbonobo2-0 2.6.2-4 Bonobo CORBA interfaces library
ii libbonoboui2-0 2.6.1-1 The Bonobo UI library
ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-15 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii libgconf2-4 2.6.2-1 GNOME configuration database syste
ii libglade2-0 1:2.4.0-1 Library to load .glade files at ru
ii libglib2.0-0 2.4.4-1 The GLib library of C routines
ii libgnome-desktop-2 2.6.1-2 Utility library for loading .deskt
ii libgnome2-0 2.6.1-8 The GNOME 2 library - runtime file
ii libgnomecanvas2-0 2.6.1.1-2 A powerful object-oriented display
ii libgnomeui-0 2.6.1.1-3 The GNOME 2 libraries (User Interf
ii libgnomevfs2-0 2.6.1.1-5 The GNOME virtual file-system libr
ii libgtk2.0-0 2.4.4-2 The GTK+ graphical user interface
ii libice6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii liborbit2 1:2.10.2-1.1 libraries for ORBit2 - a CORBA ORB
ii libpango1.0-0 1.4.0-4 Layout and rendering of internatio
ii libpopt0 1.7-4 lib for parsing cmdline parameters
ii libsm6 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X Window System Session Management
ii libstartup-notification0 0.6-2 library for program launch feedbac
ii libxml2 2.6.11-2 GNOME XML library
ii scrollkeeper 0.3.14-8 A free electronic cataloging syste
ii xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 X Window System client libraries m
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.1.1-5 compression library - runtime
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On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 08:54:03PM +0300, Martin-?ric Racine wrote:
> Package: bug-buddy
> Version: 2.6.1-3
> Severity: wishlist
>=20
> In its current incarnation, bug-buddy is barely usable, because the
> "list of top Gnome bugs" makes no sense when you already know which
> package you're about to file a bug against and because the bug report
> is sent to a different place than the rest of the Debian system
> (upstream to the Gnome Foundation's bugzilla, instead of Debian's
> BTS). =20
>=20
> The idea, for the release following Sarge, would be to rewrite
> bug-buddy into something well-integrated with this vendor's
> distribution, namely to submit bugs to the vendor's own bug reporting
> system, the BTS.
>=20
> The overall concept would be to keep the current 'strace' catching
> abilities and overall GUI design of bug-buddy, but to hard-code the
> submiting address to submit@bugs.debian.org and add classification of
> the report following the BTS' severity levels and optional tags, so
> that bug-buddy actually shows real usefulness within the context of
> Debian. However, in order to ensure that the system remains usefull
> to Gnome's upstream developers, the BTS will have to be improved so
> that an optional BTS tag exists to automatically trigger a forward of
> the BTS entry to upstream Gnome.
Dear Martin,
I'm going to have to close this bug on the grounds that to implement
what you have suggested would be to change the original intention of
bug-buddy -- which is to report back to http://bugzilla.gnome.org. SEGV
catching in the context of GNOME applications is only useful to
developers who know GTK+ intimately and would be pretty much useless to
the average Debian maintainer. Most maintainers would forward the
information upstream anyway, and diverting the output of bug-buddy to
the Debian BTS would merely introduce another hurdle in getting the bug
report to upstream in order to have it fixed. Any Debian developer who
needs to work on such a low level would already be subscribed to the
upstream bug tracking systems/lists anyway.
In order to have bug-buddy communicate with the Debian BTS a fork would
be required and large rewrites be made as Bugzilla has a very different
backup and I for one do not have the resources to do essentially rewrite
the reportbug program for GTK+. If you really want to push this issue,
then start a discussion on the debian-devel list or talk to bug-buddy's
authors.
Yours sincerely,
Andrew Lau
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