Bug#234902: libgtk2.0-0: "." key makes a ","

[Josselin Mouette]

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Le jeu 26/02/2004 =E0 15:59, Lionel Elie Mamane a =E9crit :
> I don't see the relationship: This key is not marked "Decimal
> Separator", it is marked "." . The principle of a keyboard is that
> pressing a key with a character on it produces the _same_ character on
> the computer.
>=20
> My computers (Apple II, IBM PC under MS-DOS, MS-Windows, Linux
> console, X on Linux, OpenBSD console, with French azerty, belgian
> azerty, swiss, uk and us keyboards, Novell servers console, ...) have
> _always_ produced a "." when I pressed any key marked ".". As have, as
> far as I have noticed, the Amiga's and Mac's of friends I used once or
> twice. That's intuitive. Your "Decimal Separator" talk is
> counter-intuitive: Suddenly, every time I press a key I have to think
> "Oh, does this key really mean what is engraved on
> it?". Counter-intuitive. Inconsistent with (nearly) 20 years of X, 30
> or 40 years of computers, gtk1, Qt3, tcl/tk, ...
>=20
> Please don't make computers more difficult to use than they already
> are. Keep it simple: Pressing a key with a character engraved on it
> produces this character.

This must have already been said thousands of times. Please feed trolls
elsewhere.

> Besides, even if your "Decimal Separator" talk would make sense, then
> this should be made at the _X_ level, not in one of the many toolkits
> around. Then XLookupString should say ",".

Indeed, X should be fixed too.

> > If you want to have the default (English) decimal separator, just
> > set LC_NUMERIC=3DC in /etc/environment.
>=20
> But then, programs show me numbers in the English way. I don't want
> that.

The rationale is that if you want to see numbers the English way, you
also want to type in them the English way. Ever tried to enter numbers
with a comma in a spreadsheet when the comma is 20 cm far from the
keypad? Think to all users, not only to geeks who type their numbers in
English.

Anyway, I've been told the next GTK+ release will switch back to
producing a point, but it won't help. This should be fixed for all apps,
not broken for all apps.
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