Bug#311620: marked as done (clock-applet: localized japanese time/date format is bizarre)

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From: Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: clock-applet: localized japanese time/date format is bizarre
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Package: gnome-panel
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My LANG is set to "ja_JP.UTF-8", so the clock-applet uses a localized
time/date format.  However, the format it uses is really weird --
non-standard, and actually rather hard to read.

Here's what it looks like:

    =E6=9C=A8  6=E6=9C=88  2, 6:27 =E5=8D=88=E5=BE=8C

Notice the that the "2" (the date) is follow simply by a comma which
makes it run together with the time; japanese dates are normally
followed by "=E6=97=A5", which helps greatly in reading them.  This funny
format looks like it's just the standard U.S. format with the words
translated.

Looking at an old screenshot (from August 2004), I see that the Gnome
clock-applet used to use a better and more standard format for
Japanese-localized date/time:

    6=E6=9C=88 2=E6=97=A5 (=E6=9C=A8), =E5=8D=88=E5=BE=8C 6:27

I think it would be better if the clock-applet switched back to the
older format.

Thanks,

-Miles


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
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Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.11
Locale: LANG=3Dja_JP.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=3Dja_JP.UTF-8 (charmap=3DUTF-8)

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To: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>, 311620-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#311620: Acknowledgement (clock-applet: localized japanese time/date format is bizarre)
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        Hi,

On jeu, jun 16, 2005, Miles Bader wrote:
> Update:  I noticed that this bug seems to be fixed now -- but I have no
> idea why!  The clock started showing the more correct time/date format =
a
> few days after I reported the bug; however although I update everyday,
> neither any gnome packages nor libc/locales seemed to have been updated
> recently.

 Ok, closing for now.  Reopen the bug (or mail me) if necessary.

   Bye,
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Lo=EFc Minier <lool@dooz.org>
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