Bug#314188: Announce of the upcoming NMU for the gnome-applets package

[Christian Perrier]

>  I've received this message, and it seems to be automatically crafted;
>  I'd like to suggest some improvements if these are going to happen
>  frequently.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 29, 2006, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > On 22 oct 2006 I sent a notice to the maintainer of the gnome-applets Debian
> > package, mentioning the status of at least one old po-debconf translation update in the BTS (bug #314188).
> 
>  I'm afraid I didn't get this notice, nor did the bug do.  I'm only
>  maintaining gnome-applets via the PTS subscription, so if you mailed
>  the Maintainer: directly, this isn't enough.  I think mailing the
>  @packages.debian.org would have reached me, but I'm not 100% sure
>  anymore now.

The @p.d.o address is the one getting the first mail ("intent to NMU")
and the second one, 7 days later ("announce of the upcoming NMU"). The
mail is sent with "X-PTS-Approved" headers.

This is not the first time that I see that, indeed, mails sent to
<package>@p.d.o do not easily reach package maintainers. There is
still something that I'm probably missing, here.


> > I announced the intent to build and possibly upload a non-maintainer upload
> > for this package in order to fix this long-time pending localization
> > bug as well as all other pending translations.
> 
>  I'm sorry these had to wait for so long.  It's been a while since I
>  last was able to walk through all GNOME packages looking for patches or
>  forwarding bugs.
> 
> > The package maintainer did not respond in a week so I will proceed with the
> > NMU.
> 
>  This sounds like it's missing the actual upload date.  You might want
>  to reference the upload plan which you include below.

Ah, you mean add something like "Please check the schedule at the end
of this mail". Good suggestion, indeed.



> 
> > The package is currently translated to: cs da de es fr ja lt nl pt pt_BR ru sv vi
> > The following translations are incomplete: <none>
> >        (even after applying pending l10n bugs, of course)
> 
>  The above sounds weird.  Looks like a bug to say that "The following
>  translations are incomplete: <none>" and another bug to comment that
>  this is even "after applying pending l10n bugs".

OK, rewording to:

The package is currently translated to: <POFILES>

Among these, the following translations are incomplete: <POBAD>

>  Are you sure you want to write the same mail to both the translators
>  and to the maintainer?  Sounds more complicated to read in the end.

Well, that's simpler


> 
> > Otherwise the following will happen (or already has):
> >  22 oct 2006   : send the first intent to NMU notice to
> >                  the package maintainer.
> >  29 oct 2006   : post a NMU announcement to debian-i18n with you
> >                  (maintainer) CC'ed
> >  05 nov 2006   : deadline for receiving translation updates
> >  07 nov 2006   : build the package and upload it to DELAYED/2-day
> >                  send the NMU patch to the BTS
> >  09 nov 2006   : NMU uploaded to incoming
> >  10 nov 2006   : NMU enters unstable
> 
>  Looks good but mixes translator and maintainer perspectives again.


Yeah, I understand. I won't probably change the process now because
all involved people are used to it but that would be an itneresting
improvement for further such campaigns.

Many thanks, Loïc, for your constructive remarks. And, thanks of
course, for the soon-to-come l10n upload of gnome-applets..:-)

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