Bug#498395: gdm doesn't really depend on gksu

[Anthony DeRobertis]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:24:56PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:

>  gdmsetup is a significant amount of functionality which we directly
>  want to support; if gdmsetup doesn't work, the package has a RC bug.
>  This includes users who don't have gksu and try to launch gdmsetup.

That's different than how I read that section. I read it as requiring a
depends if without that dependency, the package provides no significant
functionality; if I understand correctly, you read it as requiring a
depends if without the package loses any of its significant functions. I
believe my reading is more correct (especially considering Recommends),
but I suspect you believe the same of your reading.

It's your package, so its your decision; I don't object if you close the
bug again.

> 
> 
>  Please explain what you are really trying to achieve instead of
>  negociating individual dependencies by throwing policy quotes at us.

Well - two things. First, I confess I've gotten a little annoyed at
dependencies which make me install programs which I don't need: I
maintain some machines with small (by today's standards) amounts of disk
space. Granted, its not much space in this case.

Second, and more important in this case, is I'm trying to uninstall
gnome-keyring, which gksu depends on (though, I guess, I could have
filed this bug there, too). I'm trying to uninstall gnome-keyring
because otherwise gnome-session starts it up, and sets the SSH_AUTH_SOCK
environment variable to use it instead of ssh-agent (even though
SSH_AUTH_SOCK was already set). I could not find a way to make
gnome-session not do that, and don't use gnome-keyring anyway, so I just
tried to uninstall it.

I want to use ssh-agent instead of gnome-keyring-daemon because:
	a) gnome-keyring-daemon doesn't support ssh-add -t<time>
	b) gnome-keyring auto-adds all the keys, in encrypted form, which I
	   find annoying
	c) If I remember correctly, gnome-keyring-daemon has the ability to
	   save keyrings to disk, which is worrying should I do it by
	   mistake.

Right now, I just dpkg-diverted /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon out of the
way, and put a simple 'exit 1' shell script in its place. But that
obviously is not a good solution!

>  (Also, I recommend you to Cc: <pkg>@packages.debian.org or the bug as
>  getting your message from the bot's transcript isn't too nice for other
>  maintainers)

Sorry about that; I had assumed debbugs would forward that message along
to the maintainers.