[Foo2zjs-maintainer] Bug#579154: foo2zjs: adds a strange icon "HPLJ 10xx Replaced Paper"

Luca Capello luca at pca.it
Wed Apr 28 11:02:24 UTC 2010


severity 579154 wishlist
tags 579154 + upstream
thanks

Hi Fabian!

On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:46:55 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
> Tags: squeeze

What is the reason for this tag?  This has nothing to do with squeeze
(or I have missed an announcement), since it affects both testing and
unstable.

> Hi,  on a freshyl installed Debian desktop system a find a strange icon called
> "HPLJ 10xx Replaced Paper" in my Applications menu.

Well, I do not see that as a strange icon: at least it represents
exactly the product the software it is written for, which is not the
case for other icons, e.g. Ekiga or VLC.  And I found it even better
than the "Default Printer" icon in the GNOME Preferences in unstable ;-)

> The problem I find in this icon is (1) that I don't own such a printer

/me neither, FWIW.

> and (2) that its rather ugly GUI (sorry) doesn't fit to my GNOME
> desktop in any way.

Sorry and do not get it personal, but this is not a reason for a "minor"
bug, instead I changed the severity to wishlist.

> I'd like to suggest two possible ways how to reduce this negative
> desktop experience:

Again, do not get it personal, but what does "negative desktop
experience" mean?  The icon is there and it is even nicer than other
*default* GNOME icons, it states one single action (replace the paper
for the HPLJ 10xx printers).


> 1) This icon gets disabled by default in the
> /usr/share/applications/hplj1020.desktop file

Which means that:

- we patch upstream without a valid reason.

- users who need this software must read the documentation (which we as
  Debian have to write and keep updated), which is not a good option
  IMHO.

> or 2) this icon gets disabled by default in GNOME (thus CCing
> pkg-gnome team).

I kept the cc: (and thank you for it!), but I would say, again, that
there is no valid reason for that.

> I do think, however, that this package is usefull enough to keep it as
> part of a standard install so I would not suggest to remove it from
> this task (which would theoretically make a third option).

I would not say that this is an option at all: should we remove sane
because only a minority of the users will use it?

I would be happy to find a solution which fits all users, but I am not
sure there would be one in this case...

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
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