Bug#473118: this isn't good enough...

Lars Rune Nøstdal larsnostdal at gmail.com
Tue Jan 5 12:48:59 UTC 2010


2010/1/4 Josselin Mouette <joss at debian.org>:
> Le mardi 29 décembre 2009 à 12:12 +0100, Lars Rune Nøstdal a écrit :
>> I got a message from a much nicer person than you (and sure; me too
>> probably..) and it turned out I was wrong in that e.g. Ubuntu does not
>> even _use_ your hostile, aggressive, crappy meta-package (ha-haaa).
>
> You should explain how a package can be hostile and aggressive. This
> looks like an interesting concept to me. Does it jump at your throat and
> suck all your blood when you try to install it?

Right. Are you really an idiot or do you just pretend to be stupid as
to avoid any real discussion which would reveal you _already_ having
decided the outcome _regardless_ to begin with based on _your_
"religion"? In particular, since you can't use _that_ as an argument
without contradicting yourself and you can't really cover it up by
inventing other silly, artificial arguments ...

Are you really incapable of understanding what is being said and
what's going on? Stop acting like a fucking 10 year old smart-ass,
passive-aggressive, "cute" kid taking what people say literally (as if
that's all you are capable of); you're not clever, that's not clever
-- and if you really want to piss me off you'd damn well do better
than that!


>> Yes, it's in their repositories, but not installed. They instead
>> provide and use their _own_ meta-package which renders one with a
>> proper, complete and usable -- but _still_ flexible, desktop. So it
>> seems most (all?) of the distros let people do what they want, then:
>>
>>   * Fedora
>>   * Gentoo
>>   * Ubuntu
>>   * Arch
>>   * ..probably others?
>
> Yeah, gNewSense.

Aha, so yes, that makes one more; proves my point further.


>> ..with of course Debians version of a Gnome based desktop being the
>> exception in that it is an inflexible piece of turd. That, or you are
>> "free" to pick anoooother version (meta-package) of what a Debian
>> Gnome desktop entails that doesn't include anything useful. Oh, and I
>> run KDE now, but yeah, perhaps I should also consider dropping Debian
>> entirely for something a wee bit less hostile.
>
> No one cares what you’re using. You’re just pissing people off with your
> religious war.

What you totally missed (on purpose? but you might just be too god
damn stupid to Actually Get It) is that this shouldn't be any kind of
war and certainly not a "religious" one to begin with. It is _you_ who
are purposely creating trouble, asshole. I don't even give a damn if
it is _specifically_ about "religion", technical matters and/or
what-not for you, me or anyone else!


>> > If you think this kind of email will make things change, I wish you good
>> > luck in your life. You’ll need much of it.
>>
>> In my case I will not have to wish for anything as I _know_ people
>> will continue to reflect your negative ways back at you in various
>> forms; directly or indirectly (e.g., passive; by more or less silently
>> leaving).
>
> Developers are giving away their time to build free software. Some users
> think that, because they use their software, they can ask them to do
> anything and developers will use their free time to obey their orders,
> regardless of how stupid they are.

LOL. Free? You can take your pathetic "free" and fuck off and go to
hell. There are closed source products out there (heck; even Windows
these days thanks to our "evil leaders" here in the EU) which are more
"free" than this in some ways!

You're right though; I'm free to switch to another distro. Don't
worry; you're also right in that it is not a big deal for me (though;
running on a SSD which is rather expensive on a pr. MB basis I find
the ability to remove mono, tomboy, evolution and several other
software _application_ type components adding up to a few 100MB very
refreshing) and I _certainly_ do not care whether it is a big deal for
you or not! On that note I will filter this conversation as it is
clear that it serves no further purpose (still of course not caring
whether you care or not) any longer.


> Things don’t work like that. If you want something that developers don’t
> want do do, you have to do it yourself.

It's a frickin' 1-2 line diff, and I _have_ been doing it myself for
weeks now by patching locally while watching you dick around on blogs
talking crap about some retarded "religion" shit! Here's a clue; RMS
wrote Emacs which _still_ to this day is a significantly more
(non-"religious"; only technical) important piece of software than
you'll ever write!

 If you want the god damn patch I'll attach it but you and I already
know god damn well _exactly_ what people want. *You* have stared at
those god damn exact lines and purposely decided (consciously thought
about it) to make it harder (sabotage) for people to _do what *they*
want_ *regardless* of their (or your!) "pathetic reasons"; even the
simplest one you can possibly imagine! No, you can take _your_ "free"
and shove it.


> This is how free software has
> always worked. Just because you use it doesn’t give you *any* right.

OHNOES .. you're so precious! Eat shit and die, dickwad. Here's yet
another clue; _you_ are _easily_ replaced and you are *not* important
or even remotely significant! -- and actually; RMS's "religion" _is_
what makes this possible. So, no, you're wrong -- here's _my_ "right";
fuck you!


> Some people can’t accept that fact, and they start insulting people
> because of that. This looks like this:

Ohyeah, and there will be more of it. Either directly or indirectly
(passive or silently; by people leaving).


>> Good luck with your aggressive, destructive, violent and ugly behavior
>> -- it's _your_ "little debate". Keep pushing it; as a typical male you
>> have probably figured out by now that it is of course waaay too late
>> to change anything now; that's your "freedom" applied back at you!
>
> Please look back at every word of this paragraph, and think of your
> behavior in this bug report.

Reflect? Hahahaha! I meant every _god damn_ word of it (and the stuff
you didn't quote -- which is a lot; which says a lot) and after some
reflection just now you can add to it twofold.


> Nah, just kidding. I know that you won’t be able to reflect on yourself.
>
> Actually, I was going to add gnote back as an alternative now that it is
> maintained again,

OH YES PLEASE DO THAT MR. INTERNET MAN!


> but you just made me change my mind. Pissing off
> people like you is one of the little pleasures in life. It is so short,
> you can’t miss any such opportunity.

..but no, gosh, you're so pathetic you can't even silently fix things
now. Yes, ref. one of your idiotic comments in some blog
god-knows-where; you should just quit if you don't even _want_ to
_try_ to do things proper -- instead focusing on "religion" and "wars"
and pissing random idiots on the Internet off (you're still not good
at this either btw.). Don't make me laugh (again) .. no, wait, indeed;
you keep yourself busy now! .. *thumbs up* .. and ciao! .. I won't be
paying attention whatever the outcome ..





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