Advice needed: update-manager in wheezy considered dangerous

[Martin-Éric Racine]

As stated a few months in this discussion, upgrade-system merely Suggests
update-notifier. It therefore doesn't need to be removed.

Martin-Éric


2013/5/10 Julian Andres Klode <jak at debian.org>

> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:14:21AM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> > Hi Julian,
> >
> > On 12/03/13 00:42, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> > >Dear release team, I report this problem as we have switched our
> package management
> > >stack in wheezy from update-manager and other components to PackageKit.
> Those
> > >old components are still in wheezy however, and especially
> update-manager can
> > >be considered to be horribly dangerous: It might break systems or
> contain extreme
> > >security issues as it has not seen someone really care about it since 2
> years.
> > >
> > >We cannot simply remove update-manager however, as there are reverse
> > >dependencies. The most important ones appear to be:
> > >
> > >   * upgrade-system
> > >   * update-notifier
> > >
> > >We could simply drop upgrade-system from testing. For update-notifier,
> we cannot
> > >do this, as update-notifier-kde depends on update-notifier-common, and
> there are
> > >no other notifiers for KDE AFAIK. I could however upload an empty
> update-notifier
> > >package (for GNOME) that switches the user to the PackageKit notifier,
> thus
> > >removing that reverse dependency.
> > >
> > >Summary of the proposed solution:
> > >     1. Remove upgrade-system from testing
> > >     2. Replace update-notifier binary package with a package
> transitioning
> > >            users to gnome-packagekit
> > >         3. Remove update-manager from testing or transition users to
> PackageKit
> >
> > I think it's time to do something like this in unstable.
>
> Yes. We need:
>     (a) transitional packages for
>         - update-notifier
>         - update-notifier-kde
>         - update-manager
>
>     (b) Breaks and Provides in gnome-packagekit / apper
>         gnome-packagekit on update-notifier, update-manager
>         apper on update-notifier-kde
>
>
> I already uploaded a new version of update-notifier, called
> 0.99.3debian11+perrm1 that makes update-notifier a transitional
> package; and requested update-managers removal from unstable.
>
> I kept the update-notifier-common package the way it is now,
> so update-notifier-kde keeps working until it is replaced by
> a transitional package to apper. After that happened,
> update-notifier-common will be dropped.
>
> --
> Julian Andres Klode  - Debian Developer, Ubuntu Member
>
> See http://wiki.debian.org/JulianAndresKlode and http://jak-linux.org/.
>
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