Processed: block 726763 with 727708

Russ Allbery rra at debian.org
Sat Feb 1 23:21:20 UTC 2014


Steve Langasek <vorlon at debian.org> writes:

> I don't think it's reasonable to leave testing and unstable users of our
> default desktop environment without working suspend and resume for more
> than a month (systemd-shim was accepted into unstable on Dec 28, and
> this was mentioned on the bug) when a one-line change would fix the
> problem.

With the caveat that of course Josh's opinion on the correct status of
this bug is not necessarily that of the GNOME maintainers, personally, I
simply disagree with this statement.  These are not normal circumstances,
and normal expectations about usability of unstable and testing do not
apply.  We're in the middle of one of the most controversial decisions
that the project has ever made.  I think it's completely reasonable to
want to wait for the dust to settle, even if it means that things are
temporarily broken in the process.

systemd-shim was controversial when you uploaded it, there still are (so
far as I know) unresolved questions about conflicts and replaces and
configuration file handling, and the whole discussion has been intensely
contentious.  All sides are making blanket statements that certain things
are obvious or easy, which have then been hotly contested by everyone
else.

The sane thing for a maintainer who doesn't want to wade into this problem
to do is to simply do nothing until some sanity and clear direction
emerges.

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Russ Allbery (rra at debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>



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