Bug#773915: Why not upstream?

[Raphaël Halimi]

Le 09/09/2015 18:13, Michael Biebl a écrit :
> Am 09.09.2015 um 13:14 schrieb Raphaël Halimi:
>> Le 09/09/2015 11:21, Andreas Henriksson a écrit :
>>> Hello Raphaël Halimi.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your bug report and patch!
>>>
>>> I'd like to question a conflict I see in the reasoning around
>>> "Forwarded: not-needed".
>>>
>>> Why should this not be forwarded upstream?
>>
>> You're welcome to try.
> 
> This is not the right answer.
> "Thanks for your suggestion, I'll try and report back what upstream
> says", would have been the better one.
> 
> Fwiw, I completely agree with Andreas here.

Okay, let's assume this is right. But according to [1], I'm not supposed
to forward the bug to upstream, it's the package maintainer's job.

(By the way, according to [2] - which I never read before now - I may
also be allowed to do it by myself, so maybe one of those two documents
should be updated).

So, are you advising me to follow your advice (and the wiki's) despite
what's stated in a document from the *official* Debian website ?

But let's be honest and go back to the real problem here - you're not
berating me because I didn't report the bug upstream, you're berating me
because I *assumed* that it was no use, judging from my knowledge of the
past actions of the GNOME devs, which showed their obliviousness to
anything non-GNOME.

So I checked their Bugzilla, and guess what ? My assumption was sadly
correct, because the problem is well known since at least 2009, and six
years later, despite several bug reports [3-8], nothing has been done to
fix it.

My two-lines patch has the advantage of taking care of *all* terminal
emulators providing the x-terminal-emulator alternative, but its
"weakness" is that the alternative system is Debian-specific, hence the
reasoning around "Forwarded: not-needed".

When - or more honestly, if - the GNOME devs will address this problem,
they will do it in a {distribution,desktop}-agnostic fashion, which I
gladly admit my patch is *not* (all the more reason not to forward it).

Now, it's up to you to fix the problem once and for all, not only for
Debian users, but also Ubuntu, Mint, and all the other less known
derivatives (again, Debian Social Contract, article #4).

[1] https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/BugTriage
[3] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592857
[4] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627943
[5] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=663894
[6] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703498
[7] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=703665
[8] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743626

Regards,

-- 
Raphaël Halimi

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