Bug#836246: Acknowledgement (libgtk-3-0: Upgrade from 3.20.9 to 3.21.5 broke Mate desktop)

Mehdi Dogguy leader at debian.org
Wed Oct 5 22:52:39 UTC 2016


On 06/10/2016 00:32, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 10/06/2016 12:21 AM, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
>> I have read your message, and I can understand it can be difficult at
>> time to deal with recurrent bugreports. But, I do not feel comfortable
>> with the way you expressed your frustration. And it is not acceptable
>> to use those terms to communicate with our community (and users).
> 
> Was this now escalated to you after I did not agree with larjona at d.o?
> 

No. In fact, I was not in contact with larjona lately at all, tbh.

> I'm a bit shocked to be honest how much I'm being prosecuted down for
> this! We should really start wondering where the code of conduct
> ends and the censorship and the paternalism starts.
> 

My intention was not to make you feel prosecuted. I am sorry if you
feel it that way.

> Again, I did not attack anyone directly, I was swearing in public
> and I think this is something which is covered by freedom of speech.
> 

I believe that your original message did hurt some people, even if it
wasn't directed towards anybody specifically. So freedom of speech is
guaranteed as long as nobody feels attacked, hurt or shocked. And, CoC
is not meant to censor anyone. It is a tool to ensure that we interact
in a pleasant and welcoming environment, for the maximum of people.

> I'm not going to comment further on this. I'm also no longer subscribed
> to the pkg-mate-team mailing list and I will most likely also leave
> the team because I honestly didn't just feel annoyed but outright
> harassed by those people you abuse the Debian bug tracker as their
> personal support ticket system. Those aren't just lapses and oversights,
> this is outright laziness and malicious entitlement by those people.
> 

We are not forced to reply to every bug. We have also ways to ensure that
specific people are banned from interacting with the BTS and mailing lists
if we show they have a malicious behavior, by contacting BTS admins and
listmasters. We all feel the same when some minority abuses some system.
Some maintainers know better how to deal with those. I believe it is better
to ignore those abusers instead of swearing.

All best,

-- 
Mehdi



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