Bug#1029473: gnome-session: Automatic Suspend should not be enabled by default

vmxevilstar at gmail.com vmxevilstar at gmail.com
Mon Jan 23 11:03:06 GMT 2023


Hello,

Humbly I would suggest to install the "espresso" extension 
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/4135/espresso/


On Mon, 2023-01-23 at 10:24 +0000, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Control: retitle -1 gnome-settings-daemon: automatic suspend after 20
> minutes is undesired by some users
> Control: reassign -1 gnome-settings-daemon
> Control: affects -1 + gnome-session
> Control: tags -1 + upstream wontfix
> 
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 01:19:44 +0000, Witold Baryluk wrote:
> > It appears in Power settings, Automatic Suspend is On by default
> > (with 20
> > minutes delay).
> 
> This is intentional and has been true for about 5 years (in
> particular,
> this was already the case in Debian 11, and most likely Debian 10 as
> well).
> The automatic suspend became the default in upstream commit
> <
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/commit/2fdb48fa
> >
> which mentions that this behaviour is required by national
> regulations
> for personal computers sold in the EU and USA (with no distinction
> made
> between laptop and desktop systems).
> 
> Obviously Debian doesn't sell computers with Debian and GNOME
> preinstalled, but it would seem inconsistent with our
> social/environmental
> responsibilities if we disabled a power-saving feature like this by
> default, particularly when that would make it illegal for third
> parties
> to sell computers with our OS preinstalled in the countries where a
> lot
> of our contributors are based, and doubly so during an ongoing
> worldwide
> climate crisis and a Europe-wide energy shortage.
> 
> > I am on a desktop PC, always on, and have programs in a background
> > that
> > must run non stop or for many hours (i.e. data acquisition /
> > monitoring,
> > long running scripts, simulations, etc).
> 
> I would suggest using the system's built-in facilities to delay
> suspend
> while running these tasks. If you wrap a long-running command like
> this:
> 
>     systemd-inhibit ./my-long-running-script
> 
> then that should prevent the system from suspending to RAM during
> these
> long-running tasks. This is available in a default installation or on
> live media (because it's part of our default init system).
> 
> > I also do not understand why Screen Blank in Power Saving Options
> > is
> > "Never". A default should be few minutes.
> 
> Blanking the screen is redundant with the default suspend-to-RAM: the
> screen is always blanked and locked before suspending anyway. Of
> course,
> if you adjust the settings to disable suspend-to-RAM, then it will be
> necessary to change adjacent settings to match.
> 
> > suspend to RAM is often broken on computers I use
> 
> There is probably a kernel command-line option that can be used to
> disable the ability to suspend-to-RAM, as a workaround for hardware
> where
> the ability to suspend is present but non-functional, but I don't
> know it.
> 
>     smcv
> 

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