Bug#1029821: change gnome-desktop's default choice of Japanese input methods for Debian
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
gunnarhj at debian.org
Thu Mar 2 12:46:38 GMT 2023
Hi!
I'm commenting on this with my Ubuntu glasses on. :/
On 2023-03-02 10:42, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Is there consensus among Japanese-speaking users of Debian that mozc
> is a better default for all Japanese speakers, including new users
> who are not familiar with GNOME or Debian?
>
> I want to avoid changing this from anthy to mozc-jp, and then getting
> a second bug report from a different Japanese user saying that we
> need to change it back!
My impression from the Ubuntu side is that there is a consensus.
ibus-mozc has been preferred over ibus-anthy since Ubuntu 16.04 at the
request of Japanese Ubuntu users. I can't recall any user request since
then to change the default Japanese IBus IM.
There is a point of concern, though: mozc upstream seems to be moving
towards replacing gtk with qt. Since the main Ubuntu ISO does not
include qt, that may result in an undesired change of Ubuntu's default
in the end. Not sure if qt would be a problem for Debian.
But even if there is a risk that Debian would need to change again in a
later release, the current situation is an inconsistency between the
installer and gnome-initial-setup. So to me it sounds reasonable to make
the suggested change to mozc-jp in Debian 12. Doing it the other way
around wouldn't have much user support AFAICT.
> Looking at #984875 and #983653, I also see a mention of mozc only
> being available on certain architectures: it's available on x86, ARM
> and riscv64, but not on mips*el, ppc64el or s390x.
I don't know the reasoning behind that. Not long ago riscv64 was added
to the list due to <https://bugs.debian.org/992035>, and it proved to
build on that arch without issues. So possibly mozc can be built on more
architectures without a hassle, if that is desired.
> I'm also concerned that mozc still depends on GTK 2 (a switch to GTK
> 3 was tried and then reverted, see #967641).
I did that reversal, sorry. But it was for a good reason. The patch is
still in the source (but disabled), and maybe just needs a bit more work.
--
Gunnar
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