[pkg-gnupg-maint] [PATCH] dirmngr: implement --supervised command (for systemd, etc)
Werner Koch
wk at gnupg.org
Fri Aug 12 10:12:57 UTC 2016
On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 22:47, dkg at fifthhorseman.net said:
> Well, there is no general "gnupg log" that i'm aware of -- but i'm fine
> with re-enabling the log-file directive in --supervised mode if you
My advise has always been to put
log-file socket:///home/user/.gnupg/S.log
into the conf files and use watchgnupg to read or log them. In fact
that is what kmail does with its kwatchgnupg.
> ssh-agent). But in the system supervision case it's actually still the
> same gpg-agent that's running, not an imposter. it's just be started up
> automatically without exercising any of the auto-spawning code.
How do you convey the envvars to gpg-agent? What systemd does is
different from what gpg will do; for example the default tty, DISPLAY,
and locale may be different. gpg will also pass --homedir to the
invocation of gpg-agent if gpg has been started this way.
> There is considerably more code in dirmngr that is only for the purposes
> of supporting one specific OS (Windows) than there is in the patchset
> i've proposed.
Actually we are not using dirmngr as a system service on Windows for
some years. Thus most of this code is subject to removal.
> 0) do not start the daemon unless something the user does actively
> needs it.
That is already accomplished by gnupg itself.
> 1) do not run multiple instances of the daemon for any given user.
Ditto.
> 2) cleanly and promptly terminate the daemon when the user has
> no more running sessions on the machine.
For dirmngr this is not a good idea because we plan to add background
tasks (parcimonie).
For gpg-agent there valid use cases to keep on running gpg-agent even
after all user sessions are closed. For example a server is using a
smartcard to autheniticate connections done via cron. Terminating the
gpg-agent and thus gpg-agent would reset the smartcard and require the
operator to open a session to enter the PIN again.
> Recent versions of gnupg support desiderata 0 and 1 fairly well out of
> the box, but i've seen no concrete proposals for how to deal with 2, and
A simple solution would be to "gpgconf --reload gpg-agent" after logout
of any session. This will flush the caches and thus no sensitive
information is held by the agent. This might be a bit annoying for
other sessions using gpg-agent becuase they need to re-enter their
passphrase, but I guess people can live with that. Or just kill the
gpg-agent at session end, it will be restarted anyway as needed.
For killing I added a feature to tell the number of active connections
to gpg-agent, so that a logout script can gracefully kill gpg-agent.
But even that is not required because a single SIGTERM will delay
termination until all connections are close.
Another option is that gpg-agent can be changed to terminate itself some
time after all cache entries are expired.
> some legitimate complaints about it (see an earlier Subject: in this
> thread, which came from debian developer Ian Jackson: "Beware of
> leftover gpg-agent processes").
One gpg-agent process per user, unless several have been started from
different home directories. In fact gpg-agent has a self-check to make
sure that only one instance is running for a given homedir (technically
for a given socket).
BTW, I wish Ian would finally apply the Tor patches to adns after more
than one year of asking him. It is annoying that we have full Tor
support only on Windows.
> environment. This kind of system integration allows for the creation of
> simple quick overview tools of machine state (e.g. "systemctl --user
> status"), standardized logging (e.g. "journalctl --user -u gpg-agent"),
<scnr>Sounds like Windows and not like Unix</>
> eh? It sounds to me like you're aware of some complaint or bug report
> i'm unware of. Could you explain more, or point me to a specific
> example, please? I've been running systemd for quite some time and i've
See the recent LWN article about systemd terminating all processes at
session close including nohup'ed processes.
> Certainly, you can configure systemd to act as a "watchdog" and have it
> kill processes that don't report regularly to a dbus interface,
GnuPG does not use dbus. Long ago I considered to add support for this
but after checking all the dependencies and code required for dbus I
figured that this is not a good idea and could only be added using an
external helper.
What your proposed change won't solve is the ssh-agent support. Well
gpg-agent would be started by ssh as needed - cool. But the also
important point on how to convey the envvars to gpg-agent is not solved -
this requires changes to the ssh-agent protocol and code changes to ssh,
proper. Now if those changes are anyway required, the autostarting can
be added as well.
Shalom-Salam,
Werner
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