[pkg-gnupg-maint] Upstream request: Please use the default keyservers

Jonathan McDowell noodles at earth.li
Mon Mar 2 19:38:31 GMT 2020


On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 10:20:54AM +0100, Andre Heinecke wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> On Friday 28 February 2020 21:12:07 CET Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> > On Fri 2020-02-28 10:59:58 +0100, Andre Heinecke wrote:
> > Sorry about that.  I've tried to keep this response short, but i failed
> > again :(  I appreciate your followup.
> 
> This is about decision power.
> 
> You are taking our software and changing it. This is not about a Bug it's an
> opinonated decision. You are stealing the maintainership of GnuPG.

That's an extreme view of package curation as part of a Linux
distribution.

> You are not the maintainer of GnuPG, it's our decision which keyserver is
> default. That you claim the right to just overrule us is free software at its
> worst. We should not have to convice you that our Software does the right
> thing.

dkg is the only active maintainer of GnuPG within Debian. He is the
maintainer of the package there, and as a result gets to make decisions
about how that package works within Debian. It's a fact that a key that
is held within the Debian keyring is corrupted within the SKS network
and will result in a large download that has been known to make GnuPG
unhappy.  That's something that's more likely to affect people using
Debian packages than the wider user base, and it's a decent reason to
make a more cautious choice of keyserver for the distribution package.

> Debian is happly patching away on GnuPG. Ok. But at this point where our own
> user experience on Debian is broken by your changes we have to take a stand.
> This is not a technical issue. You are simply overruling us.

This change is not one that the user is powerless to revert; a single
entry in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf will set the preferred keyserver (and as
someone who runs a keyserver and has found the SKS network unreliable in
the past I don't know why you wouldn't nail your config to a known good
keyserver rather than accepting the default).

(I live dangerously and enable no-self-sigs-only as well because what's
 the point of OpenPGP without the web of trust?)

> For now I still care a bit about debian and will stand up against you. It's
> probably hopeless but some core piece of software like GnuPG might stand a
> chance against even against profesional packagers that can spend their days
> writing long mails.

I care about Debian too, and use GnuPG within it, and I've found dkg to
be a responsive package maintainer who has proactively taken my bug
reports and passed them upstream, often with sufficient extra debugging
to narrow down exactly what the problem is.

J.

-- 
... "Unfortunately, no matter how good commercial software is, it gets
    locked up in a tower, later archived to a dungeon, and its grave bears
    no marker." -- adb
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