[Debian GNUstep maintainers] Re: gratuitous -dev package renaming

[Hubert Chan]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 02:01:55 -0800, Steve Langasek <vorlon at debian.org> said:

> On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 10:45:42PM -0700, Hubert Chan wrote:

>> Err.  Sorry, I should have caught this at first.  For most (for some
>> value of "most") packages, a binNMU is not enough.  Due to the
>> changed file locations, most packages would need their debian/rules
>> modified to add "gsdh_gnustep" in the binary-* targets.  Otherwise,
>> they may not be installable (if they have any files in the relocated
>> directories).

> Ok, then I'll definitely avoid meddling with those packages, thanks.
> (Though addresses-for-gnustep already got meddled with, and was
> probably one of those affected, hmm...)

Yes, I think it is.  Well, a new package is already uploaded, and has
been waiting in NEW for a while.  We'll see how long it takes to get
approved.

>> However, due to the directory structure changes for FHS compliance,
>> none of the new -dev packages can be installed at the same time as
>> any of the old -dev packages.  For example, if someone has
>> libgnustep-gui0.9-dev (old) installed, which depends on
>> libgnustep-base1.10-dev (old), and this pulls in
>> libgnustep-base1.11-dev (new) because it provides
>> libgnustep-base1.10-dev, then bad things will happen.

>> But I would gladly welcome suggestions on how to fix this if you have
>> any ideas.

> Well, the solution that comes immediately to mind is for the new -dev
> packages to conflict with those incompatible, old versions of -dev
> packages which depended on them; e.g., libgnustep-base1.11-dev
> Conflicts: libgnustep-gui0.9-dev (<< 0.10.2-1).  Normally, versioned
> less-than conflicts are discouraged because they complicate upgrades,
> but for -dev packages I don't think that's a problem.

I guess this is academic now, since it looks like we're actually on
track for a completed transition soonish (modulo waiting for the NEW
queue).  But I'll keep that in mind for the next time, if we run into
the same problem again.

I assume that if libgnustep-base1.11-dev Conflicts:
libgnustep-gui0.9-dev (<< 0.10.2-1), it won't prevent
libgnustep-gui0.10-dev from being installed, even if it Provides:
libgnustep-gui0.9-dev (since it doesn't declare a version)?

>> I also have a list somewhere of packages that should be removed,
>> since they are not being used and we have lost their maintainer.  I
>> hope to be able to send that to -release (? or where is the proper
>> place to send it?) soon.

> Packages that should be removed completely should be reported as bugs
> against the ftp.debian.org pseudopackage.

OK, thanks.  I'll do that.

>> Thank you, Steve, for that much-needed kick in the pants.

> Thanks for replying and letting me know where things stand.  I look
> forward to seeing these various RC bugs closed in uploads in the
> coming days. :)

Well, part of that depends on the NEW queue... ;)

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