[Pkg-gridengine-devel] Going for 8.1.3

[Laszlo Kajan]

Hello Dave!

>> I am not prepared and experienced enough to address the rest of the
>> issues you bring up. Mark Hymers, who did the original packaging for
>> Debian,
>> does not seem active now. I am just a user of SGE, and not a
>> sophisticated one to that. I hope others on the team can comment, or
>> that we can
>> recruit new team members from Debian, who can.
> 
> I'm afraid I'm confused who's available as a maintainer/packaging
> expert.

I kind of meant this as a call for our project admins, Mark Hymers and Michael Banck: perhaps nobody would take offence if at this point we
asked the Debian community at large - say on debian-devel at lists.debian.org - if anyone wanted to join this team and help out? Should that be
unsuccessful... I suppose it is the conclusion you arrive at, at the bottom.

>>> I'm not at all sure the current conflicts and replaces tags are right,
>>> and the setup with alternatives for DRMAA and names clashes with Torque,
>>> for instance.
>>
>> This also is something beyond the depth of the issue I can commit to
>> investigate.
> 
> Maybe it's a case of seeing of there's any problem. I suppose I can try
> to contact maintainers of other systems.  (The torque one I recall from
> crystallography long ago...)
> 
>>> There seem to be fundamental issues with a distributed system like this
>>> in Debian, apart from policy making it rather difficult, for instance,
>>> to run shared-everything clusters.  I can't see a way to make automatic
>>> updates work sensibly.
>>
>> Probably this is why the Debian community is quite cold on gridengine.
>> Without more expert (than my) contribution from Debian Developers/grid
>> experts, I am starting to see that gridengine may not continue to be
>> maintained within Debian.
> 
> Surely Debian should be able to cope with such closely coupled
> distributed systems anyway.  This can't be a unique example, and if
> policy doesn't support it, that should change.
> 
>> There's an expression in Hungarian: 'He ran his cleaver against a tree
>> too big'. I feel this way a lot these days, attempting to (help)
>> maintain
>> gridengine.
> 
> Indeed.  I expected plenty of people to hack on it free of Sun/Oracle,
> but that hasn't happened, and the commercial interests have clobbered
> the community.  It looks as if the future is SLURM.
>