set debug=all [ anything you need to try crashing it ] and send us the whole log. If it crashes when you issue one of the two first commands, try preloading serial.mod and terminal.mod (--modules parameter to grub-install). Thanks -- Robert Millan <GPLv2> I know my rights; I want my phone call! <DRM> What use is a phone call⦠if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.)