[Pkg-javascript-devel] JavaScript policy?

François-Régis frv at miradou.com
Mon Mar 31 22:27:59 UTC 2014


Hi Ben,

Thank you to participate to this debate, as I've no personal conviction
and even no personal legitimation to enforce any conviction, I'm glad to
have legitimates POV.

Le 31/03/2014 06:34, Ben Finney a écrit :
> François-Régis <frv at miradou.com> writes:
>> Le 31/03/2014 00:03, Ben Finney a écrit :
>>> * How do we know – and demonstrate to anyone who asks – the truth of
>>>   the assertion that the source is actually the corresponding source
>>>   of the exact non-source file?
>>
>> Before asking how do we know, we should ask do we need to know (and
>> this in fact the question of the thread).
> 
> You're asserting that there is some set of works received from upstream
> where:
> 
> * (for example) ‘foo.js’ and ‘foo.min.js’ are distributed together; and
> 
> * the Debian maintainer claims ‘foo.js’ in the source package is the
>   corresponding source for ‘foo.min.js’ in the source package, thereby
>   satisfying the Social Contract requirement to provide the source for
>   every work in Debian.
> 
> Yes? (If you're not claiming there is such a set of works, then I don't
> see the point of discussing what to do about them. So I'll continue on
> the assumption that you claim there really *are* some such works to
> which the discussion applies.)
> 
> In order for the Debian package maintainer to claim that file ‘foo.js’
> is the corresponding source for the non-source file ‘foo.min.js’, we
> should require that the claim is true about those specific files.

So you prior respond to the question "do we need to know" by yes and I
believe this the subject of the debate as :

- Somes DD don't think so about js minified files (see previous
refersences).
- No package providing for instance jpeg (or whatever file format) whith
'source" like svg or xcf try to prove that jpeg (or whatever) is from
source. And don't do it as they can't.

> That seems to make it clear that the question quoted above – “how do we
> know?” – is prior to the question you're posing – “based on that
> knowledge, what should we do?”.

That just demonstrates you provide your own response on 'do we need to
know' before responding to 'how'. Your response is yes, Others are 'no'.

This enforce the fact that we need to have a consensus on "do we need to
know that

<quote>
the source is actually the corresponding source of the exact non-source file
</quote>
"
This is Ben formulation and I think we can have better one.

Thank's for everyone to enrich the discussion.

Cheers;

-- 
François-Régis



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