[Pkg-javascript-devel] please push all node-postgres gbp branches

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Sun Sep 7 08:44:15 UTC 2014


Quoting Leo Iannacone (2014-09-07 10:21:24)
> On 6 September 2014 14:30, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
>> Quoting Jérémy Lal (2014-09-06 14:16:21)
>>> Le samedi 06 septembre 2014 à 12:59 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit 
>>> :
>>>> Newest node-postgres seems to need these modules missing in Debian:
>>>>
>>>>     "buffer-writer": "1.0.0",
>>>>     "pgpass": "0.0.3",
>>>>     "packet-reader": "0.2.0",
>>>>     "pg-connection-string": "0.1.1",
>>>>     "pg-types": "1.4.0"
>>>>
>>>> Help is much appreciated getting those packaged!
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure i could team up with Leo (if he's available) to get
>>> the packages done in the day... but there's an ongoing discussion
>>> about bundling modules, so i wonder if it is a good occasion to start
>>> one.
>>>
>>> What do you think ?
>>
>> I am no fan of bundling!
>>
>> I appreciate the concern for keeping resources tight, but have seen no
>> actual measurements as to the damage caused by tracking upstream
>> projects individually - and I see a real damage to bundling in that it
>> weakens tracking our upstreams (are bundled jQuery plugins up-to-date?
>> How to check that - as a developer and as a user?).
>>
>> Perl team has recently gone _away_ from bundling modules.
>>
>> ...but I still remember when I adviced you to not taking serious the
>> complaints about the "node" name - we lost ~3 years on that account :-(
>>
>> So I guess my advice is to _not_ listen directly to what I think, but
>> only take it as inspiration - try distinguish between noise and
>> substantial parts from those frowning upon tiny packages.  I agree that
>> a package containing essentially a single line of code is insane.
>>
>> What do anyone in the team think?
>
>
> Are we messing up with those small modules?

If it works, then it works!

If you can manage to track upstream changes and keep the bundle-packages 
sensibly up-to-date and their contents is reasonably easy to locate for 
our users, then I guess it is a success.


> And... should we have a "max-lines-of-code" number under of that the 
> module should go in a multi-module package ?

I am sceptical to such quantitative measure.  But then again, I am 
sceptical to the whole approach so should probably step back and let 
those exploring the approach discuss here :-)


My point was not that recent activities on bundling tiny Node packages 
has failed, but that a) I most likely won't participate in that and b) I 
recommend to beware if really needed (do the critical voices in Debian 
indicate real trouble e.g. with Policy or just a loud minority opinion).


 - Jonas

-- 
 * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt
 * Tlf.: +45 40843136  Website: http://dr.jones.dk/

 [x] quote me freely  [ ] ask before reusing  [ ] keep private
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 949 bytes
Desc: signature
URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-javascript-devel/attachments/20140907/7cdc7cb2/attachment.sig>


More information about the Pkg-javascript-devel mailing list