[Pkg-javascript-devel] CTTE decision on nodejs (bug #862051)

[Jérémy Lal]

2017-08-16 9:08 GMT+02:00 Ross Gammon <javascript at the-gammons.net>:

> On 08/01/2017 09:14 AM, Jérémy Lal wrote:
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>
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> 2017-08-01 7:59 GMT+02:00 Ross Gammon <javascript at the-gammons.net>:
>
>> On 07/31/2017 08:05 PM, Jérémy Lal wrote:
>>
>> Hi team,
>>
>> 2017-07-31 19:17 GMT+02:00 Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen at debian.org>:
>>
>>>
>>> The technical committee was asked in bug #862051 to revisit the decision
>>> in
>>> bug #614907 (conflict between the ax25-node package and the nodejs
>>> package).
>>>
>>> === Resolution ===
>>>
>>> The Technical Committee recognises that circumstances change in ways
>>> that make previous resolutions no longer appropriate.  In 2012, it was
>>> resolved that the nodejs package should not provide /usr/bin/node due to
>>> the historical conflict with the ax25-node package.  Node.js is still
>>> quite popular and the ax25-node package is no longer in stable, testing
>>> or unstable so the requirement for nodejs to not provide /usr/bin/node
>>> no longer applies.
>>>
>>> The Committee therefore resolves that:
>>>
>>> 1. The CTTE decision from 2012-07-12 in bug #614907 is repealed.
>>>
>>> This means Debian's normal policies and practices take over and the
>>> nodejs package is free to provide /usr/bin/node.  The migration should
>>> be managed according to Debian's usual backwards-compatibility
>>> arrangements.
>>>
>>> === End Resolution ===
>>>
>>> Please see http://bugs.debian.org/862051 for discussion of this bug.
>>>
>>
>> Next time i'll upload nodejs, it will be with /usr/bin/node and
>> /usr/bin/nodejs.
>> After that, please stop patching modules shebangs.
>> I suspect it is a bad idea to keep /usr/bin/nodejs forever, so hopefully
>> it will
>> be possible to remove it before buster.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jérémy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Once that is done, I will tweak https://wiki.debian.org/Javasc
>> ript/Nodejs/Manual and https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs for new
>> team members if you like.
>>
>> Should we eventually add something to the buster release notes to warn
>> those users/developers that might have been unaware of nodejs-legacy, and
>> developed their own stuff using /usr/bin/nodejs? Or is that likely to be a
>> rare situation?
>>
>
> I suppose it's important enough to, yes.
>
> Jérémy
>
>
What's "done" exactly ? The wiki changes ?

> Done - please double check someone!
>
> Where are we with npm2deb. Should I submit a bug, or has it already been
> fixed? Sorry - I am suck on Stretch on my laptop (waiting for more time),
> so I do lots of manual fixing when working on a new package ATM.
>
Was npm2deb rewriting shebang ?
There is no particular urge in dropping /usr/bin/nodejs, though it would be
nice to get there for Buster.

> Backports - It struck me when doing the updates to the wiki that we might
> need a versioned depends on nodejs [Build-Depends: nodejs (>= 4.8.3~dfsg-1~)
> to make it clear for people (like Andreas Tille) that might want to start
> backporting node stuff to stretch. Otherwise they will need to add back the
> patches to make things work.
>
Right now, to my knowledge, it's only version 6.11.2~dfsg-2 in unstable
that installs /usr/bin/node.

> Also I note on the wiki that the "nodejs-abi" might become a mandatory
> goal for Stretch! Where did we get with that? Should we make it mandatory
> for Buster?
>
This should be mandatory for nodejs c++ addons, though there are not plenty
of them and it's really easy to fix using the dh helper.
Other pure javascript libraries should not be concerned.

> Ross
>
Jérémy
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