[Pkg-javascript-devel] New JS team mailing list?

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Nilesh Patra (2022-03-25 19:11:32)
> On 3/25/22 10:58 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >>> I recommend that you report that issue to the mailinglist admins: 
> >>> The footer of https://alioth-lists.debian.net/ lists 
> >>> https://salsa.debian.org/alioth-lists-team/support as their 
> >>> preferred place to report issues.
> >>
> >> I think it is already known for quite sometime. IIRC bugs.d.o and 
> >> alioth lists use similar mechanisms for mails.
> > 
> > Ah, you mean the SPF issue, affecting domains outside debian.org.
> > 
> > Yes, I am aware of that issue, and there is no need to report it, as 
> > there is nothing really to be done about it: It works as intended by 
> > design (and design of SPF is limited).
> 
> No, not SPF, I mean DKIM[1]
> it is not a policy framework, but rather a signature (not GPG) on your 
> mail validating it to be sent from your domain.
> Unlike SPF, it is more robust by design.

You need not sell DKIM to me.

I believe issue for SPF and DKIM is same: Debian administrators 
administrate only services tied to the debian.org domain (and 
_delegation_ of services tied to debian.net).

If you want to debunk that point of mine as well, then I recommend you 
do it at the bugreport you referenced earlier, because I am not a 
postmaster nor a listmaster in Debian and convincing me that some 
mechanism will work great is not gonna change anything.


> >> Since you moderate this list, I thought it would be nice if you 
> >> would be nice if you could also moderate lists.d.o, as current 
> >> maintainer it would be easier to collaborate with list admins (just 
> >> a thought, not a strong opinion)
> > 
> > I don't think I will engage in screening for spam at lists.d.o.
> 
> Sure, that wasn't the point of my mail either :)

Ok.  I am then still in the dark about your point of suggesting me in 
particular for moving this forward.

Maybe you have noticed by now that I have a hard time understanding what 
it is you are trying to point out.  In some cases I only point out my 
failure but at other times I try guess.  Possibly that is me being daft, 
but regardless it is helpful if you try clarify, and it certainly isn't 
helpful to simply inform me that I got it wrong.


> > I don't see at https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list 
> > that my status as DD should have any special relevancy for creating 
> > a new list for our team.
> > What is needed is clear and accurate facts passed to listmasters 
> > when requesting - as documented very detailed.
> 
> I am a DD myself.
> So should there be such reqs, I possibly should be able to handle 
> that.
> I just replied to the bug with the information that listmasters need, 
> with you in CC.
> 
> Will see if it gets processed.

Not sure why you cc'ed me that followup to the bugreport, but am not in 
the mood for guessing as to your motives, so just informing you that 
again I am clueless.


 - Jonas

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