[Pkg-javascript-devel] Proposing to upload webpack 5 to unstable

Jonas Smedegaard jonas at jones.dk
Fri May 20 11:02:06 BST 2022


Quoting Pirate Praveen (2022-05-20 11:03:15)
> 
> 
> On വെ, മേയ് 20 2022 at 07:18:41 രാവിലെ 
> +02:00:00 +02:00:00, Jonas Smedegaard <jonas at jones.dk> wrote:
> > Please provide more detail:
> > 
> > Which packages fail to work with webpack 4, and how?
> > 
> 
> webpack 4 itself is broken, I don't think the effort to fix webpack 4 
> is really worth it as we won't be able to support in bullseye anyway 
> and webpack 5 was in experimental long enough.
> See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1011097
> 
> > Which packages listed as failing with webpack 5 is easy peasy to 
> > simply
> > upgrade (without collateral damage to reverse dependencies)?
> > 
> 
> Bugs were filed long time ago for all failing packages and most of them 
> are fixed. 
> https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bts-usertags.cgi?user=pkg-javascript-devel%40alioth-lists.debian.net&tag=webpack5 
>  has full list. For bigger transitions, we can't really wait for every 
> package to be fixed, we can only realistically give a good heads up for 
> people to fix things. You can see how we did not even get any notice 
> for openssl, we only got a bug after it was broken. But for webpack5 
> all affected packages have bugs for a long time.
> 
> > The last major upgrade of chalk has lef eslint broken, so I am *not*
> > happy if you push webpack upgrade forward without properly weighing
> > the collaterals!
> > 
> I agree with this sentiment in general for breaking without sufficient 
> notice. But I don't think webpack 5 transition was any surprice, at 
> least 3 full months of outreachy work happened on the transition and 
> two people worked full time on it. So I don't think asking for more 
> time is reasonable.

For the record, it is not time I ask for, only clarity.  I don't try to
stall unnecessarily.

My point is that "current package is broken too" is not in itself an
argument to move to major new upstream release.

Thanks for the link to the bug in webpack4, I agree with moving to
webpack5.


 - Jonas

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