Bug#358664: [Pkg-kde-extras] Bug#358664: Reopen Bug#358664

[Richard/g]

On Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:25, Jari Aalto wrote:
> "Frank Schoolmeesters" <frank_schoolmeesters at yahoo.com> 
writes:
> 
> > On 2/1/07, Jari Aalto <jari.aalto at cante.net> wrote:
> >> Mark Purcell <msp at debian.org> writes:
> >>
> >> > tags 358664 wontfix
> >> > tags 358664 upstream
> >> > forwarded 358664 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1460937&group_id=6488&atid=106488
> >> > thanks
> >> >
> >> > On Tuesday 05 December 2006 20:41, Jari Aalto 
wrote:
> >> >> Repoening - and do now tag with "wontfix" just to 
hide this problem.
> >> >
> >> > Done!
> >> >
> >> >> If KDE people are unresponsive, then Debian 
amaintainer could write
> >> >> local patch to remove the intrusive screen.
> >> >
> >> > This is well beyond the remit of normal Debian 
package maintenance.
> >> >
> >> > Patches are always welcome, if you can assist...
> >>
> >> Good to here. Will you apply it once I get one 
ready?
> >> Do you prefer dpatch managed one or do I just send 
diff?
> >
> > The splash screen is NOT intrusive, and can be 
disabled very easy in
> > Konfigurator as already stated many times in
> > 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=358664
> 
> What konfigurator? I do not use KDE WM/desktop at all. 
Only the
> "File manager" Krusader. Linux doe snot have many good 
file managers
> that are comparable to that of Windows OS. Thank you 
for the program!
> 
> > Current KDE nor Krusader is intended to work on old 
hardware, as i
> > already mentioned before.
> 
> The problem is not there. For some reason or other the 
startup takes
> very long time.
> 
> * In fast machines it just flashes, right?
> * In slow machine is stays there and occupies 20% of 
the
>   effective screen space. And because the way it's been
>   implemented, it staus "on top", making it impossible 
work in
>   other windows underneat (actuall, it certers itself, 
making
>   all programs unusable)
> 
> Please understand that there are many many people that 
do not have the
> monetary assets to upgrade every year. The world is not 
the developed
> countries.
> 
> > I don't understand why you are so aggressive against 
the solution
> > provided as already mentioned before.
> >
> > AFAIK there is only _one_ of many many many users who 
has a problem
> > with this issue.
> 
> I do hope that this won't go into that direction. Any 
problem, should
> be listened and checked if it can be solevd in a 
satisfactory way. If
> I understand correct, it has been suggested
> 
> * Use Konfigurator
> 
>   => Cannot do that. No KDE Desktp is installed.

The konfigurator is a part of Krusader. 
Settings >Configure_Krusader >Startup
remove the "X" in the box by Show Splashscreen. 

You are correct, that many applications splashscreens 
hold the system hostage on Pentium 1s and 2s. 

The Kde desktop is not a requirement for running 
Krusader; only kdebase, kdelibs, a couple of other 
libraries.  Try it, it should help to turn off the 
splashy. 

saludos,
Richard.
 
> * Other have not ported this before
> 
>   => That does not make bug non-existing. There are 
various reasond why this
>   has not een reported: people don't know reportbug, 
they use better hardware,
>   better displays (X > 1024), or they just don't bother 
sending reports.
> 
> I'm wondering:
> 
> * what functionality is lost if the splash screen is 
not diplayed?
> * what are the real benefits of splash screen in the 
first place other
>   than a marketting slogan and making name known? Do we 
really need that
>   kind of announcements?
> 
> I'm willing to invest the time to examine this if I get 
a confimation
> that patch will be accepted (likeMark Purcell 
suggested), in case
> developers are busy in taks elsewhere.
> 
> Jari
> 
> 
> 
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