[Pkg-kde-extras] KDE 4 apps.

[Tom Albers]

Op wo 28 mar 2007 23:48 schreef u:
> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 09:08, Tom Albers wrote:
> > > I assume that depends on the plans for the KDE 4 kde<whatever> packages.
> > 
> > Thanks for answering. The plan for Mailody is for example:
> > 1st April Mailody 0.5 KDE3 based.
> > 1st May Mailody 0.??-alfa1 KDE4 based, Mailody will release at the same times
> KDE releases alfa, beta's & rc's.
> 
> I doubt that Debian will switch to KDE4 in one quick change, that said
> hopefully there will be some sort of library
> transition so we can have a smooth application transition.
> 
> 1st April release of Mailody 0.5 we can upload quickly to unstable and then
> (hopefully) etch has released
> and thus mailody 0.5 will transition to testing within the standard 10 days.
> 
> I doubt that KDE4 alpha/ beta/ rc will be released to unstable, I would imagine
> the team will wait until the
> first real release to bring KDE4 to unstable.  Once KDE4 is released to
> unstable then mailody can also be
> brought to unstable and I would imagine for a while we would have the KDE3 base
> and applications in testing
> and KDE4 base and applications in unstable. Once the library transition/
> applications are in a fit state I would
> image that KDE4 base and applications would transition to testing around the
> same time.
> 
> Based on past experience the team may release KDE4 alpha (unlikely) / beta / rc
> to the Debian experimental distribution,
> if this happens then we can use experimental as a bit of a sandbox for
> integration of applications into KDE4.  Then
> once KDE4 releases we can move to unstable.
> 
> The question over releases to experimental seems to be mainly driven by
> available manpower and technical ability to
> work with the fast changing upstream releases and issues.  Certainly it will
> easy the integration of KDE4 into Debian, but
> it maynot be suitable.
> 
> > Ok, can we arrange things so it won't end up in the NEW queue for a month?
> Any convention about naming? 
> > So it's clear for the user what's KDE4 based and KDE3 based? 
> 
> NEW being backed up for a month is actually a rare activity.  I suspect the
> problem at the moment is due to the
> 'imminent' release of etch taking longer than expected and the release team are
> other wise distracted rather than
> processing NEW.
> 
> That said if you want to enable the KDE3 & KDE4 versions of mailody to coexist
> on the same machine
> at the same time we would need to do something like have a mailody & mailody4
> packages, which would have to go though new.
> 
> If we just have mailody 0.5 with KDE3 dependancies and mailody 0.6 with KDE4
> dependancies, then the user gets the
> libraries with whichever version they wish to install.  And dependanices will
> ensure that other applications/ libs are
> conflict managed and removed.

Hi Mark, 

Thanks for the responses to my mail. Things are a lot clearer now. I think it will be a difficult transition and I hope it will go ok. There are a lot of people / users excited about KDE4 and who want to install it as soon as it comes available. I want to provide a Mailody package for those users of course and that seems possible from your explanation.

I think we might not need a Mailody4 package, we can just upload / experiment with it together with the upload of KDE4. As there will be no more releases of mailody for KDE3. I imagen that will go for most packages from now on. 

Again thanks for taking the time to explain it in detail. 

gr.

Toma