[Pkg-libvirt-maintainers] Bug#765448: Bug#765448: libvirt-daemon-system is not installable on non-systemd system

[Guido Günther]

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 09:44:03PM +0200, Guido Günther wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:21:56AM +0300, Yauheni Kaliuta wrote:
> > Package: libvirt-daemon-system
> > Version: 1.2.8-3
> > Severity: normal
> > 
> > Dear Maintainer,
> > 
> > attempts to do "apt-get dist-upgrade" recently started to report:
> > 
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   libvirt-bin libvirt-daemon-system virt-goodies
> > 
> > $  apt-cache policy libvirt-daemon-system
> > libvirt-daemon-system:
> >   Installed: 1.2.8-3
> >   Candidate: 1.2.9-3
> >   Version table:
> >      1.2.9-3 0
> >         500 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages
> >  *** 1.2.8-3 0
> >         500 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
> >         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> > 
> > The reason is that the new libvirt-daemon-system version Depends of
> > policykit-1,
> > which depends of libpam-systemd which Depends of systemd which is blocked
> > on my
> > system.
> > 
> > Since it's declared, that systemd is not mandatory in Debian, the package
> > must
> > be installable (or what I did wrong?).
> 
> It's "declared" that you don't need systemd as init system
> (systemd-sysv), depending on systemd itself is fine - you should
> adjust your blocks accordingly (it's like asking not to depend on
> dnsmasq since you don't like it, it's perfectly valid as a wishlist
> bug, but that's about it).
> 
> I'm closing this since this since it's just another dependency, please
> reopen if you think otherwise.

Another point here: polkit in wheezy doesn't depend on systemd but the
jessie version does. So looking if we can make polkit's dependency on
systemd optional - or offer a polkit compatible replacement in the
long run would make the "hard" indirect dependency on systemd.

I've also checked that (forcibly) removing polkit makes
libvirt-daemon-system still work for uid 0. So we can run without
polkit even with enabled polkit support.

Cheers,
 -- Guido