[Pkg-lxde-maintainers] Bug#988696: installation-reports: No network management in LXDE task

[Andreas Tille]

Hi Holger,

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 09:00:55PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:
> Control: reassign -1 lxde
> 
> Andreas Tille <tille at debian.org> wrote (Tue, 18 May 2021 10:37:12 +0200):
> > I decided for the LXDE task (and unselected Gnome).  This ends up with
> > no network management on the rebootet system.  My solution was wo
> > plug-in the installation USB stick and install network-manager (+
> > network-manager-gnome) and all its dependencies manually.  This problem
> > is not only valid for this box.  I have installed three laptops in a row
> > and its always the same.  My suggestion is to simply add network-manager
> > to the LXDE task.
> 
> The LXDE metapackage has a Recommends on 
> 	connman-gtk | network-manager-gnome
> so connman-gtk should be installed, when choosing the LXDE task.

I admit I do not know connman-gtk.  I'm generally not an LXDE user and
may be an experienced user of this environment will expect connman-gtk
to be installed.  But any (LXDE) newcommer is wondering where to
configure the network if there is no visible icon to do so.

BTW, I just installed another laptop and for whatever reason I lost
network connection after I added the Debian Mirror.  The installation
from USB stick continued smoothly without network.  That's possibly the
best solution since possibly connman-gtk was not on that stick and thus
network-manager-gnome ended up in the installation which even remembered
the configured network connection. ;-)
 
> And I verified that it gets installed (here).
> 
> I guess, your problem was, that connman-gtk is not being started automatically
> when rebooting after installation, so you don't find anything related to
> network configuration in the system tray (as you might be used to).
> Starting connman-gtk from the menu works though (under 'LXDE menu' -> Settings ->
> Connman Settings). 

OK, fine for me.  As I said I've found my way, but a newcomer might
just stumble upon this.
 
> So, as a possible way to get around this, LXDE people might want to think about
> adding connman-gtk into "Autostart" under 'LXDE menu' -> Settings -> Default 
> applications for LXSession, so that network management tool is automatically 
> started and accessible to the user (and user are aware of such tool)...

Sounds like a very sensible solution to me.
 
> Many people will most probably want to use network management tool on desktop 
> systems.

+1 

> Re-assigning to lxde people.

Thanks a lot

    Andreas.

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