[Pkg-lxde-maintainers] Bug#1071383: gnome-core should recommend network-manager instead of network-manager-gnome

[Michael Biebl]

Hi Simon,

thanks for your reply

Am 14.10.24 um 17:13 schrieb Simon McVittie:
> On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 at 16:33:40 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> The name of the network-manager-gnome package is indeed a bit misleading
>> nowadays.
>> Thus for some time I contemplated splitting up the package (similar to how
>> Fedora has done) into network-manager-applet and nm-connection-editor. The
>> former would contain the nm-applet binary, the latter nm-connection-editor.
>>
>> network-manager-gnome would become a transitional metapackage depending on
>> both.
>>
>> Desktop environments which already provide an applet/tray could then skip
>> installing network-manager-applet and opt into installing
>> nm-connection-editor only (for its advanced functionality).
> 
> In trixie's metapackages, we now have:
> 
>      Package: gnome-core    # a smallish GNOME system
>      Recommends: network-manager [linux-any]
> 
>      Package: gnome         # a fully-featured GNOME system
>      Depends: network-manager [linux-any]
>      Suggests: network-manager-gnome [linux-any]
> 
> and I think all of that is reasonable.
> 
> If you split network-manager-gnome as discussed, then we would certainly
> replace network-manager-gnome with nm-connection-editor. We could also
> consider promoting nm-connection-editor from Suggests back to Recommends
> in the "big" gnome metapackage, although I'm unsure whether we should
> or not (my personal inclination would be not).
> 
> At the moment, network-manager-gnome is also a Recommends for
> gnome-control-center, but perhaps that's a bug? Or perhaps g-c-c uses some
> part of n-m-g internally?
> 
> task-gnome-flashback-desktop does pull in network-manager-gnome as a
> Depends, but that seems right for GNOME Flashback, which is a continuation
> of GNOME 2 and doesn't use GNOME Shell (that's the point).
> 
> Various non-GNOME desktops do pull in network-manager-gnome, and I'm not
> sure which half of it they want: Budgie, Cinnamon, LXDE, LXQt and MATE
> pull it in as a Recommends or Depends in their metapackages, XFCE pulls it
> in via task-xfce-desktop, and the design-desktop and parl-desktop
> metapackages (both of which are XFCE variants) have it as Depends. Those
> desktops' maintainers might have an opinion on whether this split would
> be helpful.

Good idea. Looping them in here for their feedback.


(Sorry for the massive cross-post and "misusing" this bug report).
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