[Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#272487: marked as done (mailman: Provide more information about VERP-Usage)

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From: Cord Beermann <cord at debian.org>
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Subject: mailman: redesigned bounce processor doesn't work.
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Package: mailman
Version: 2.1.5-1
Severity: important

in 2.1.5 Upstream included a new bounce processor. 

It sends a probe after a Bounce-Highscore and resets the Score
afterwards.

the bounce of the probe doesn't seem to be recognized correctly,
so the same loop runs again and again. 

Cord

-- System Information:
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ii  ucf                         1.06         Update Configuration File: preserv

-- debconf information:
* mailman/queue_files_present: 
* mailman/default_server_language: en
* mailman/gate_news: false
* mailman/site_languages: de, en, no
* mailman/used_languages: de en
* mailman/create_site_list: 

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Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 23:43:00 +0100
From: Lionel Elie Mamane <lionel at mamane.lu>
To: Cord Beermann <cord at debian.org>
Cc: 272487-done at bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#272487: mailman: VERP issues
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On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 10:35:26PM +0100, Cord Beermann wrote:

>>> I'm sure. and you are mostly right. Mailman runs without VERP. The
>>> one thing i found that didn't work is the probe for a bounce, when a
>>> subscriber has exceeded the allowed bounce count.

> From: ${MAILING_LIST}-bounces+fb75b441ab8cbb7f974691da33256b87710d2ea9@${DOMAIN}

> in the special case. and it's the:

> | This is a probe message.  You can ignore this message.
> | The Linux mailing list has received a number of bounces from you,
> | indicating that there may be a problem delivering messages to

> Mail.

>> I just tested it with my "play" mailman installation, and the "Your
>> Membership Is Disabled" mail is sent from
>> ${MAILING_LIST}-bounces@${DOMAIN} .

>>>> from Mailman import mm_cfg
>>>> mm_cfg.VERP_PROBES
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "<console>", line 1, in ?
> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'VERP_PROBES'

> this is mailman 2.1.5-8 from Debian stable.

Aha, I see. This is a new setting added in 2.1.6, with a default of
"No". If it is set to "No", then subscribers above their threshold are
simply unsubscribed, if it is set to "Yes", a last chance VERP-ed
probe is sent. Mailman 2.1.5 behaves as 2.1.6 with VERP_PROBES set to
"Yes". Which is a bug.

Thanks for the details,

-- 
Lionel