[Pkg-mailman-hackers] Moderation action "None" is misleading

[Thomas Krichel]

  Stephen J. Turnbull writes

> Markus Grandpré writes:
> 
>  > Hopefully we won't have to wait too long with Debian
> 
> Debian has traditionally been quite slow to update Mailman, and
> they're following tradition.

  And now it has the addition issue that Debian testing python
  standard it 3.13, so the nntplib is no longer supported.
  Thus the current Mailman debian testing appears broken. 

> Our standard recommendation is to do a source installation in a Python
> virtual environment, point the new installation at your $SQLDB, review
> the content of /etc/mailman3 (I think Debian puts mailman3 configs
> there and that's what we recommend), test the new installation, and if
> that works, remove the Debian installation after preserving the
> /etc/logrotate.d/mailman*, /etc/cron.d/mailman*, and
> /usr/lib/systemd/system/mailman*.service files which are probably
> generally appropriate for Mailman 3 installed in a Debian system.

  Thank you. This is very valuable advice. I am in the same
  situation, running testing Debian and wanting to keep
  Mailman by debian, but I realize it is problematice. The
  web interface I have appears to be buggy. My users tolerate
  it but it's not good. 
 
> There is also a containerized distribution of Mailman 3 suite, but I
> don't know how straightforward it is to port over a Debian packaged
> system to that environment.
> 
> It may sound pretty fearsome, but you can hire people to do the
> installation and testing (maybe for as little as a pizza and a mug of
> beer ;-).

  I certainly would love to build an alternative Mailman Debian
  package that would be more up-to-date, but I don't want
  to do it on my own. Is anybody interesed in chiping in? I can
  certainly provide a test server. As a group we may also decide
  not to support certain feature to make it easier to get a
  version off the ground. 
  

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  Written by Thomas Krichel http://openlib.org/home/krichel on his 21796th day.