the archives of debian-mate team are weird.

[shirish शिरीष]

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On 5/17/15, Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de> wrote:
> Hi Adrian,
>
> On  Sa 16 Mai 2015 20:03:39 CEST, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>> On 05/16/2015 06:42 PM, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>>>> Do you have a URL for the pkg-gnome archive?
>>>
>>> https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gnome-maintainers/2015-April/thread.html
>>>
>>> As can be seen there is a difference between this and the pkg-mate-team
>>
>> You should have been more precise, it actually took me a second look to
>> spot the difference:
>>
>> GNOME: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gnome-maintainers/
>> MATE:  http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mate-team/
>>
>> As you can see, GNOME is sorted by month while MATE is sorted by week.
>
> Best monthly view on the pkg-gnome archive is actually this one:
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-gnome-maintainers/2029-June/date.html
>
>> Mike, can you have a look at the administrative settings whether there
>> is a way to set the default sorting for this view? Might be a good
>> idea to sort by month instead of sorting by week but naturally, this
>> is also personal preference.
>
> I agree with a monthly view being more appropriate for followers of
> the team's communication workflow. I switched to monthly view now for
> pkg-mate-team ML, but I am unsure if the already existing archive
> pages will be re-generated on a monthly basis now. Let's see. Please
> Shirish, check the list archives again in a month from now (or two)
> and report back about the results. Thank you.
>
> I will also switch the pkg-mate-commits archive to a monthly view, but
> need to re-acquire a passwort from Alioth's FusionForge tool first.
>
>> Shirish, I think you may be able to configure your default thread view
>> after logging in to the mailing list archive but I haven't tried and
>> I'm therefore not sure. But usually, a mailing list software allows you
>> to configure some of these settings.
>
> I don't think that this works with the pipermail archiving software in
> mailman, but I may be mistaken.
>
>> Adrian
>
> Thanks Adrian for spotting the actual difference addressed by Shirish.
>
> Mike
>
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Dear John and Mike,
Sorry for not being precise. I thought it was obvious.

It is/was not just the monthly view but also the gains specifically in
threading, author and dates all of which is gained when the monthly
view is used.

As far as the suggestion for configuring default thread view is
concerned, that's asking a user to look for a non-obvious solution. I
have seen quite a number of mailing lists both in debian as well as
outside and found that the monthly view is the most used view almost
everywhere. Where would the weekly view had some gain would probably
been say debian-devel (inside of debian) and the linux kernel mailing
lists both of which generate at least a thousand messages per month
(conservatively) i.e. around 30-35 messages per day. Even if you are a
casual visitor to either of those mailing lists, it's easily seen that
messages go beyond that. A somewhat low-activity ML like pkg-team
should make it easier for even casual visitors to ML archives. For a
potential newcomer, being able to see the traffic of a month or two on
the ML at a glance will also help him/her in grasping some of the
issues and hot topics for that team/ML.

I hope this time I was able to be more precise why the monthly look
is/was preferred by me.
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