Bug#836246: libgtk-3-0: Upgrade from 3.20.9 to 3.21.5 broke Mate desktop

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 09/01/2016 12:14 PM, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Well, we obviously want unstable users to report bugs. That's one of the
> purposes of unstable. I don't think we should slap users for that.

I'm not disagreeing with that in general. However, anyone using unstable should be
aware of the fact that they are using stuff that is currently being worked on. I
always compare that to trying to live in a house that is being under construction
and then complaining to the construction workers that they are producing dust
and noise. Like the construction workers, we usually know when stuff is broken,
so we don't need people pointing us at things all the time.

Bugs are acceptable during freeze and after they have been without attention
for a long time or when they are really critical, but not in these cases
where some transitioning work is going on.

> It's something different if users have a completely skewed view about
> unstable (see #836207 for an example).

Yeah, that one is out of the question invalid.

> In this particular case, I assume there are changes in MATE which need
> to be made, to accomodate change in libgtk-3-0.

I'm actually surprised to see these problems. It seems that GTK3 broke
theming support again (#836238). Wasn't that supposed to remained stable
for a while now?

> I personally wasn't aware, that this gtk update affects MATE.
> Adrian, do you know more about that?

No, not really. I'm running on MATE on unstable with always up-to-date
packages and besides the crashes with mate-terminal when switching profiles
or the theming issues in mate-terminal, I'm not seeing any of the problems
mentioned in the bug report.

In any case, I always recommend reporting these bugs upstream where the
actual MATE developers are sitting who will fix the issues.

Adrian

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