Bug#763357: mate-desktop: Confusing translation (de) in Mate Desktop Environment

Mike Gabriel mike.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de
Sat Oct 25 18:01:30 UTC 2014

Control: tag -1 wontfix

Dear G.Heine,

I checked upon your reported issue.

On  Mo 29 Sep 2014 18:49:42 CEST, G. Heine wrote:

> Package: mate-desktop
> Version: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1
> Severity: minor
> Tags: l10n
> Dear Maintainer,
> first of all I don't know whether mate-desktop is the correct  
> package for this
> bug report because I don't know where MATE's localization is based. Sorry.

  Obviously the below discussion has already been lead elsewhere earlier [1].

> Now for the bug: starting with Mate 1.8 the German translation is confusing.
> For years "desktop" has been translated with "Arbeitsfläche" in most systems,
> not only Linux. Mate did the same until and including 1.6.
> Starting with 1.8 the corresponding folder is no longer called  
> ~/Arbeitsfläche

Note that MATE itself does not handle the ~/Desktop folder directly,  
but uses xdg-user-dirs for it.

> but ~/Schreibtisch. You can also find "Aussehen des Schreibtischs anpassen"
> connected to "Erscheinungsbild" (appearance). In other places it is still
> "Arbeitsfläche": you use "Arbeitsflächenumschalter" in the panel to switch
> between workplaces.
> The worst is using Caja: you click "Arbeitsfläche" under "Orte" (places) and
> it will open ~/Schreibtisch while the title above calls it  
> "Arbeitsfläche" (in
> icon mode) or "Schreibtisch" (in text mode).

 From the quoted post [1] I get that desktop is translated as  
"Schreibtisch" nowadays and "workspace" (my desktop normally has four  
of those) is translated as "Arbeitsbereich" or "Arbeitsfläche".

So: the "Schreibtisch" (desktop) is used for all "Arbeitsflächen"  

Personally, I agree with you that the work "Schreibtisch" is a rather  
"unglücklich gewählter Begriff".

> I noticed this behaviour in Mate 17 in May and it is still there in Debian
> Testing in September.
> This is a somewhat confusing and unnecessary change for the worse. In my
> opinion you should stick with "Arbeitsfläche" or (if the "ä" after decades of
> computer technology still causes problems) change it to "Schreibtisch"
> completely. But please stay with one wording all over.

I am sorry, but I have to tag this bug as "won't fix", because it is  
beyond my scope as one of the Debian maitainers of MATE to change the  
German translation of all related packages.

[1] https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-de/2012-November/msg00079.html

Thanks for contributing your concerns about the German translation of  
the MATE desktop environment...



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