Processed: Re: Bug#766880: xscreensaver screensaver don't appear in mate-screensaver

Mike Gabriel mike.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de
Mon Nov 3 09:44:23 UTC 2014


Hi Tormod,

On  So 02 Nov 2014 10:58:11 CET, Tormod Volden wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Stefano Karapetsas wrote:
>>
>>> The same would be needed for other .desktop files from all kind of
>>> packages. Since MATE is a fork of GNOME, with probably much compatibility,
>>> wouldn't it make sense to patch MATE instead so that it shows GNOME desktop
>>> files? Is there a policy on this?
>>
>>
>> This is impossible. MATE is accepted keyword in .desktop files spec because
>> we need it to know which applications are GNOME only and which ones are MATE
>> only. Without these two keywords, we would have a lot of duplicates in panel
>> menus, for example.
>
> I find the concept of MATE great, and I wouldn't mind adding this to
> the desktop files, but what is the official stance on MATE in Debian?
> Are all packages obliged to support the MATE environment, as per
> policy? Please supply references.

It actually was discussed to have MATE as a default DE for jessie [1],  
but that approach was dismissed and GNOME continues to be the default  
DE, as (a) the MATE packaging team could need more man power (so this  
is actually taking a lot of pressure from the MATE pkg team for now)  
and (b) the packages haven't been in Debian long enough to eradicate  
all kinks and wobbles.

But basically, MATE has become one of the official DEs in Debian and  
if you peer over to the Ubuntu side, MATE is about to become an  
official flavour there. I'd like to see someone picking up a Debian  
MATE project (in terms of providing Debian jessie ISOs that have MATE  
as default DE (due to lack of time I won't do that myself)).

Mike (aka sunweaver, main uploader of MATE packages in Debian)

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Requalification/Jessie


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