Bug#771587: caja: Please provide an option to start caja desktop

Mike Gabriel mike.gabriel at das-netzwerkteam.de
Sat Feb 7 11:26:38 UTC 2015

Hi Adrian,

On  Fr 06 Feb 2015 10:48:26 CET, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

> On 02/06/2015 08:42 AM, Manuel Gräber wrote:
>> I am using caja desktop as the default desktop background on xfce4  
>> (instead of
>> xfdesktop). Since the patch I am no longer able to start the  
>> desktop background
>> outside of MATE. Would it be possible to add an option to just start mate
>> desktop regardless of of the running desktop envoronment?
> This is a good example why it's generally a bad idea to support as many
> use cases as possible.
> We added the fix for the use case with Caja to work on another desktop
> or window manager other than MATE. Adding this "fix" just broke another
> use case and after we fixed this, another user will come along and
> ask for their use case to be supported and so on and so forth.
> Honestly, I don't think we should add too much cruft here just to get
> any possible use case working. MATE is designed to work as a whole and
> was never intended to be used in Frankenstein setups.
> I am not telling users that they aren't allowed to use the software the
> way they want. I'm just saying it's simply impossible to honor every
> single use case without adding too much craft which in the end will
> result in more bugs.
> Adrian

I see it slightly different here. If people/users provide patches that  
integrate well (and upstream agrees with such patches), I'd be happy  
to support such "Frankenstein" efforts.

Some MATE components are quite handy on non-MATE desktop, I must admit.


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