Bug#775120: task-mate-desktop: Should install mate-system-tools

[Mike Gabriel]

Hi Jean-Philippe,

On  Mo 11 Mai 2015 20:33:58 CEST, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:

> Le 11/05/2015 09:37, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
>> Mike Gabriel, le Mon 11 May 2015 03:27:17 +0000, a écrit :
>>>>>>    * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
>>>>>>      ineffective)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once the system boots, after lightdm, I want to change password, set
>>>>> the date,
>>>>>> network, etc. through a GUI.r
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    * What was the outcome of this action?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No item appears for this. I only can use CLI tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fix: add mate-system-tools in installed packages.
>>>>> Looks to me that mate-desktop-environment should pull it instead?
>>>> What's your stance on this?
>>> Furthermore, mate-system-tools will be deprecated for MATE 1.10.
>> What replaces it?  Does MATE not provide anything to accomplish those
>> tasks?
> In Debian Jessie, no. Not adding the package means the user cannot  
> change his passwd, network, etc through GUI. I don't know what will  
> be with 1.10, but in stable, this package is needed.

If the package is needed:

   $ sudo apt-get install mate-system-tools

The issues with mate-system-tools, I have are:

   o not well tested inside Debian
   o not needed on enterprise sites (they are useless with
     LDAP, Kerberos, etc.).

So what you can convince me of is adding mate-system-tools to  
Suggests: in mate-desktop-environment-extras, but that does not make a  
change for the installation procedure and won't be much appreciated by  
the Debian release team either, I guess.

I'd say, we should compensate this via documentation, how about  
helping out with improving [1] and mentioning mate-system-tools there?

light+love,
Mike

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Mate

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