[Pkg-mozext-maintainers] Bug#831447: firefox-branding-iceweasel 0.4.0 MIGRATED to testing

Adam D. Barratt adam at adam-barratt.org.uk
Tue Jul 19 16:41:39 UTC 2016

On 2016-07-19 16:47, nord-stream wrote:
> On 18/07/16 17:57, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
>> [Why is this CCed to quite so many places / people?]
> Sponsor, reviewer, related package maintainers...

If they're interested, they can follow the bug. They don't all need to 
be CCed on every message.

> It's because the package is part of the follow-up UX work of
> firefox-esr's migration into jessie, targeted at a significant portion
> of general stable Debian users. (I'm sorry for the delay) People who
> don't use backports have got firefox-esr. Quite a few users seem
> confused. This is important for consistency and usability.

Who are these "quite a few users"? Where are they being confused?

> With this in stable, we can say to anyone who wants to keep Iceweasel:
> "Run this command:
> sudo apt-get install xul-ext-iceweasel-branding"
> Without bothering about backports.

I understand the idea. I'm just not sure why this package is so special 
that they shouldn't "bother with backports".

> It is just a rare exception.
> Quote (from 815006 at bugs.debian.org and
> pkg-mozilla-maintainers at lists.alioth.debian.org lists):

The relevant bits of that bug appear to be confused between the security 
archive, proposed-updates and stable-updates, which is unfortunate. 
(e.g. there is no firefox or iceweasel package in jessie-updates, nor 
has there ever been one.)

(Also there's no such thing as "pockets" in Debian, that's a 
Launchpadism. They're called suites, or distributions if you must.)

> On 15/06/16 14:06, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote:
>> the "bug" is introduce with a stable-release-update, and should be 
>> fixed
>> with another s-p-u

I suspect we disagree as to whether this is a "bug" to begin with.

It was an intentional choice on the part of the maintainers and the 
security team, and was announced in the corresponding DSA. Are there 
really users who aren't reading DSAs but are happy to install software 
as root just because you told them to?



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