Bug#588240: crashes with latest mplayer from sid

Norbert Preining preining at logic.at
Tue Aug 3 15:30:48 UTC 2010


Hi,

I see the comment:

>> ii  libavcodec52       5:0.6~svn20100603-0.0 library to encode decode multimedi
>> ii  libavformat52      5:0.6~svn20100603-0.0 ffmpeg file format library
>> ii  libpostproc51      5:0.6~svn20100603-0.0 postproc shared libraries
>> ii  libswscale0        5:0.6~svn20100603-0.0 ffmpeg video scaling library
>
>^^ Not Debian packages, knowing to cause breakage.

And in bug report #591349 I see:
> You are mixing debian-multimedia.org libraries with debian's system
> libraries, and this is guaranteed to cause problems. More specifically,
> mplayer rc3 is not compatible with ffmpeg 0.6,

Yes, sooo *what* breakage please?

What I see is:
- marillat provides working packages since ages
- your packages do not cooperate with the libs he is shipping


Why did you (maintainer) choose that specific version number:
	2:1.0~rc3++final.dfsg1-1
with ++? Only to make sure that the packages at marillat are overridden
by packages that suddenly break video playback in many applications?

Yes, of course, the answer is: "I don't care for package outside Debian"
as we have seen above, but that is *not* the best way to go.

Why not choose a version number which is below the one of marillat? It
would still be the default package to be installed in Debian unless
people know what they are doing and adding marillat source. 

Or is it about ego, my packages has to be the one that breaks all the
system out there???

Furthermore, you (Reinhard Tartler) said that mplayer is not compatbile
with ffmep 0.6, so why does the one from mdebian-multimedia run?

You say that "mixing debian-multimedia libs with debians *guarantees*
to cause problems", well, up to today I never had these kinds of problems
in the last years, so it might be your personal observation, but mine 
kind of disagrees with that. Can you please provide reasonable data point
beyond shipping a breaking package that supports your ideas?

THere is no statistical data, but I would expect that most people in
one or the other way use packages from marillat.

Anyway, I have "downgraded" to working packages and hope yours will 
take a reasonable version number. But actually I don't care for them.

Enjoy

Norbert
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