adding a binary package to pd-cyclone

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Dec 25, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 14:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner  
> <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 02:10:27PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 00:27, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at 
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just pushed some changes to pd-cyclone that create a split-out  
>>>>> binary
>>>>> package called 'cyclist'.  As far as I understand it, I don't  
>>>>> need to ITP
>>>>> this new 'cyclist' package since its split off of the pd-cyclone  
>>>>> source
>>>>> package, but it does need to go thru the NEW queue.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'cyclist' is a command line utility for converting file formats  
>>>>> that is
>>>>> built as part of the 'cyclone' library.  Its the only thing in  
>>>>> 'pd-cyclone'
>>>>> that installs into /usr/bin and has a man page, so it made sense  
>>>>> to me to
>>>>> split it out.  Then it can be installed on its own without  
>>>>> puredata or any
>>>>> Pd libraries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its ready for a sponsor/uploader if you are ready for it. :)
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me there isn't much point in having the cyclist binary
>>>> without pd. What is the use case of converting Max/MSP patches  
>>>> into text, if
>>>> not for importing into pd?
>>>
>>> A search engine, perhaps?
>>
>>
>> It would be useful to Max/MSP users separate from Pd.  And perhaps  
>> also
>> useful to other computer music people.  The binary file format is  
>> really
>> only for Max/MSP, but the text file format is quite old, and used  
>> by a
>> number of other members of the Max family.  Pd and jMax for  
>> example, which
>> are free software, and Max/FTS and Max/ISPW which are specialty  
>> proprietary
>> versions of Max.
>
> OK. The Recommends on cyclist by pd-cyclone is not clear to me. If
> these tools have different use cases, then maybe recommends is too
> strong a relationship.


Since the central goal of the 'cyclone' library is for running Max/MSP  
files in Pd, and Max/MSP patches are usually distributed in the .mxb  
binary format, I think it makes sense to Recommend: cyclist so that  
'cyclone' users can translate .mxb files to .pat/.mxt files, which Pd  
can directly read.

.hc


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