Verbose build log

Jonas Smedegaard jonas at jones.dk
Thu Jun 10 19:00:55 UTC 2010


On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 02:15:05PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:12, Christophe Mutricy <xtophe at chewa.net> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> VLC 1.1.0 uses automake 1.11 and so the build can produce non-verbose 
>> logs like the kernel does for some years.
>>
>> CC foo.o
>> CCLD foo.so
>> ...
>>
>> We can revert to the old fully verbose behaviour if we like.
>>
>> Do you know if there is a Debian or pkg-multimedia 
>> policy/best-practice on this matter.
>>
>> Verbose log can help debug FTBFS but increase the size of the log by 
>> 2 or 3 order of magnitude
>
>I would think the time you waste by waiting a 3Mb file to download 
>instead of a 3Kb file is more than regained by the detailed command 
>lines which could provide help with problematic flags.
>
>It's still your call, though. I don't believe there is any policy on 
>this matter.

Debian Policy is based on common practices, not the other way around.  I 
guess you are right, Felipe, that this is not governed by policy, but 
only because not yet written: I do believe it is a common practice to 
avoid "build noise silencers".

Here's one small piece of the puzzle: http://bugs.debian.org/551453

You can probably find some debates with varying viewpoints by searching 
debian-devel at lists.debian.org if not convinced as easy as I was :-)


Kind regards,

  - Jonas

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