hold uploading pd-cxc, pd-ekext, pd-bsaylor, pd-markex, pd-mjlib, pd-sigpack, pd-smlib, pd-windowing, and pd-pdogg

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:31 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

> On 11-04-26 at 11:12am, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>> On 2011-04-25 23:10, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
>>>
>>>> go ahead. But you also changed other things as well.
>>
>> apart from the ominous change from "Depend" to "Suggest", the other
>> other changes were fixes for lintian warnings and adding Vcs-stanzas
>> to debian/control
>>
>>
>> anyhow, nobody uploaded the packages yet and all changes are
>> documented in git.
>> if you indeed insist in "Depend"ing on pd-libdir, reverting this
>> specific change should be trivial.
>
> Yes, this is a team, but...
>
> It seems to me that it is not our policy (or social style - we need  
> not
> have policies about everything IMO) that anyone works on anything  
> here -
> without prior coordination.
>
> It is always nice to ask _before_ messing with packages you are not
> directly involved in.  Not sure if that was the case here, but from  
> the
> reaction it seems so.
>
> In the Perl team we us the Uploaders field as a hint about who in the
> team is directly involved with maintaining it.  We might do the same  
> (if
> not policy here already?).
>
>
>
> I see teamwork not as all of us eating directly from the same big  
> plate,
> but sitting in the same room eating together - being more directly
> inspired by work of each other than in big Debian, and some of us
> sharing some plates - but asking nicely before tasting treats from the
> plates of each other.
>
>
>
> So, instead of saying that "it is easy to roll back" I suggest that  
> you
> roll it back yourself, IOhannes, since you did the change that is
> clearly disliked - technically correct or not.
>
> Afterwards, when not distracted by a social issue, it is easier  
> discuss
> the technical issue of what package relation makes best sense for that
> particular package.


I think you said it very well, Jonas. Since I started this thread, I  
feel I should also respond, but not to beat a dead horse.  I'd sum it  
up in short American style as "communication is essential to  
teamwork". ;)

All of the changes might have been perfectly good, my problem is that  
I didn't hear anything of any of it until the upload request. I think  
its always best to ask before touching a repo that I have not touched  
before.  I'm fine with direct commits, since reverting is easy, as  
long as I get a chance to review the commits before it gets uploaded.

.hc


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