Request for an open dialog between projects

Jonas Smedegaard dr at
Thu Mar 31 16:40:34 UTC 2011

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 08:29:25AM -0700, info at wrote:
>I've given this a bit more thought and firstly Jonas don't put too much 
>weight in the 'mongrel dog' was just a (failed) attempt at 
>viewing derivatives with a bit of humor. I don't pretend to know what 
>you like or dislike, just what possibilities are within the Debian 
>framework to keep things efficient. ;)

I believe I did write that I was unclear what you meant by that.  I 
still am, but guess it isn't important.


>I am preparing my user manual for the 5.0 release and would like to put a
>"Support" section in there to clarify how to get help. To paraphrase our
>discussion here I will explain the difference between my packages and
>yours and suggest people report all bugs to me first, and then go from
>there depending on if it is pkg-multimedia related or not.
>Does this sound like a workable arrangement?

Sounds sensible to me.  Seems like same mindset as I prefer: Start 
locally, and extend from there as relevant.

For a vital ecosystem it is crucial to be nice to our upstreams.  
Passing relevant stuff (patches, bugs etc.) back upstream is nice, but 
passing irrelevant stuff back upstream is not nice.

Skipping some "hops" in the upstream chain is a delicate matter: When 
you "skip Debian" and pass bugs and patches directly to the upstream of 
Debian, then your intent is no doubt good: not bother Debian with 
"irrelevant chit-chat between you and our common upstream". But in a 
hypothetic case of our common upstream then not accepting a patch you 
offered, it makes sense to then also offer it to Debian.

  - Jonas

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